Hot Rod Cams Ordered
06-26-2008, 05:52 PM
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RE: Hot Rod Cams Ordered
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I am going through the exact same thing. The dealer is checking on the extent of warranty. I have my FRPP cams on order (M-6550-3V) Hot Rod Cams. The dealer told me that they felt the engine would still be under warranty; however, a cam failure or an engine failure attributed to the cams would not be covered. They are looking to confirm. I only have about 1300 miles on my car so I am very interested in this outcome. (But... I am going to do it anyway!) I also have the FRPP 3.73 gears sitting waiting to go in at the same time and I am getting ready to order the BBK equal length ceramic coated shorty headers also.
When did you order your cams? These are currently on back order at Ford Racing and they could only guess 4 - 6 weeks but could not confirm. There were about 12 or 13 on the back order list ahead of me when I ordered a week or so ago. Not sure how many they normally receive in a shipment either since these are so new. Did you get an expected delivery??
I noticed that you are asking about the valve spring tool. These cams do not require spring modes, in fact, Ford Racing conveyed to me that changing the springs to a stiffer spring will result in failure over time.
You will need a custom tune with these cams. Talk with doug@bamachips.com. He has just completed a dyno tune on a setup with these cams and has a custom tune for the SCT tuner.
I am going through the exact same thing. The dealer is checking on the extent of warranty. I have my FRPP cams on order (M-6550-3V) Hot Rod Cams. The dealer told me that they felt the engine would still be under warranty; however, a cam failure or an engine failure attributed to the cams would not be covered. They are looking to confirm. I only have about 1300 miles on my car so I am very interested in this outcome. (But... I am going to do it anyway!) I also have the FRPP 3.73 gears sitting waiting to go in at the same time and I am getting ready to order the BBK equal length ceramic coated shorty headers also.
When did you order your cams? These are currently on back order at Ford Racing and they could only guess 4 - 6 weeks but could not confirm. There were about 12 or 13 on the back order list ahead of me when I ordered a week or so ago. Not sure how many they normally receive in a shipment either since these are so new. Did you get an expected delivery??
I noticed that you are asking about the valve spring tool. These cams do not require spring modes, in fact, Ford Racing conveyed to me that changing the springs to a stiffer spring will result in failure over time.
You will need a custom tune with these cams. Talk with doug@bamachips.com. He has just completed a dyno tune on a setup with these cams and has a custom tune for the SCT tuner.
what were the numbers on the dyno tune with these cams?
06-27-2008, 02:20 AM
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RE: Hot Rod Cams Ordered
Quote from email that I received from Doug.
"I have just finished up dynotuning a set of FRPP camshafts and they gained 17-20 rwhp across the board along with having an excellent idle sound."
"I have just finished up dynotuning a set of FRPP camshafts and they gained 17-20 rwhp across the board along with having an excellent idle sound."
06-27-2008, 07:40 AM
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RE: Hot Rod Cams Ordered
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Quote from email that I received from Doug.
"I have just finished up dynotuning a set of FRPP camshafts and they gained 17-20 rwhp across the board along with having an excellent idle sound."
Quote from email that I received from Doug.
"I have just finished up dynotuning a set of FRPP camshafts and they gained 17-20 rwhp across the board along with having an excellent idle sound."
06-27-2008, 08:08 AM
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RE: Hot Rod Cams Ordered
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Quote from email that I received from Doug.
"I have just finished up dynotuning a set of FRPP camshafts and they gained 17-20 rwhp across the board along with having an excellent idle sound."
Quote from email that I received from Doug.
"I have just finished up dynotuning a set of FRPP camshafts and they gained 17-20 rwhp across the board along with having an excellent idle sound."
The Comp NSR gain about 27 according to brenspeed, but they lose on the low/mid (where you are on the street 95+% of the time). Their gains are only in the high end but if these FRPPs gain 20 across the board, then I'd say these are better over all while having a better idle sound.
Yep, FRPP Hot Rods for me!
I wonder how Sutton got 30 on stock heads. Gotta find that out!
06-27-2008, 08:18 AM
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RE: Hot Rod Cams Ordered
The Comp NSR gain about 27 according to brenspeed, but they lose on the low/mid (where you are on the street 95+% of the time). Their gains are only in the high end but if these FRPPs gain 20 across the board, then I'd say these are better over all while having a better idle sound.
Yep, FRPP Hot Rods for me!
I wonder how Sutton got 30 on stock heads. Gotta find that out!
Yep, FRPP Hot Rods for me!
I wonder how Sutton got 30 on stock heads. Gotta find that out!
06-27-2008, 09:29 AM
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RE: Hot Rod Cams Ordered
but would it be safer to get a shop to update the tune? basically working with the car up close as supposed to indirect (like with bama???))))? Dont get me wrong, I love my Bama tune, probably the greatest mod Ive put on the car... But would Doug's tune be safe with the FRPP cams seeing that every car will react differently to the cams???
06-27-2008, 09:59 AM
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RE: Hot Rod Cams Ordered
Jmose- I just called Ford Racing to see when they expect the next shipment of cams because I also have them on backorder through LateModel Restoration. Ford Racing told me they are still 2 to 3 weeks out as of today. They indicated the cam grinder has one side complete and are working on the second side grind.
06-27-2008, 10:27 AM
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RE: Hot Rod Cams Ordered
well SirKnight, I have a lot of bolt ons... more than just intake and exhaust, I was just wondering if it is safe to run the generic tune rather than sitting down with the ECU and reading the car...