Re-bore and supercharge question
#14
the V8-equipped Camaro SS delivers better numbers across the board as the manual (420HP) hits 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and runs a 13.4-second quarter-mile at 108 mph according to Chevrolet.
edit: weight owns this car.. if they could drop some weight it would be damn quick though
edit2: Base curb weight range: 3913 (SS automatic) ... wow almost 4000 lbs. No wonder it almost does the same 1/4mile as a stock gt.
2008 Shelby GT500 Mustang: Vehicle Curb Weight: 3,920 lbs.
So the gt500 with an iron block and a power adder on it already only weighs 7lbs more than a N/A engine. I really wouldnt be too worried to be quite honest.
edit: weight owns this car.. if they could drop some weight it would be damn quick though
edit2: Base curb weight range: 3913 (SS automatic) ... wow almost 4000 lbs. No wonder it almost does the same 1/4mile as a stock gt.
2008 Shelby GT500 Mustang: Vehicle Curb Weight: 3,920 lbs.
So the gt500 with an iron block and a power adder on it already only weighs 7lbs more than a N/A engine. I really wouldnt be too worried to be quite honest.
Last edited by Hufenstang; 10-13-2008 at 04:53 PM.
#15
But who can afford a GT500? Very few.
Lets face it, Camaro's base SS will be $31k which get's you a 120hp more without mods. Already we're talking about $6-7k in SC mods to our GT's just to compete and even then to do it right, extra money should be spent on clutches, traction, tires, etc. In come the basic mods for the Camaro and it's no contest IMO.
I think a lot of us do the majority of our racing from the stop light rather than from the christmas tree and this is where the 0-60 times really tells the story.
I don't know what Ford has planned for the 2010+ but they better bring an engine that will compete against the Challengers and Camaro's... while not asking you to shell out $48k.
Lets face it, Camaro's base SS will be $31k which get's you a 120hp more without mods. Already we're talking about $6-7k in SC mods to our GT's just to compete and even then to do it right, extra money should be spent on clutches, traction, tires, etc. In come the basic mods for the Camaro and it's no contest IMO.
I think a lot of us do the majority of our racing from the stop light rather than from the christmas tree and this is where the 0-60 times really tells the story.
I don't know what Ford has planned for the 2010+ but they better bring an engine that will compete against the Challengers and Camaro's... while not asking you to shell out $48k.
Last edited by Live Wire; 10-13-2008 at 05:54 PM.
#16
at a base price at 31k and a gt base price is right at 25k. You have to consider this apples to apples, i can do a lot with 6k to my car. not to mention these cars stock for stock the mustang weighs almost 500 lbs less than the new SS.. that more than makes up for the extra power and that is the same reason its running a 13.4 in the 1/4 mile.
#17
More recent publications are quoting both the auto and manual camaro ss in the 12's. The guys getting an ss are basically getting what we get in GT500 for like 30k less -_- Ford needs to step up in engine options to keep up. I've looked into BMR for suspension options.
I've decided on what I'll do for my 1st few steps to complete by Christmas.
1. Electric water pump
2. One of the BMR handling packages depending on what I can afford at time
Please leave comments on what you think. All plans flexible as of now.
I've decided on what I'll do for my 1st few steps to complete by Christmas.
1. Electric water pump
2. One of the BMR handling packages depending on what I can afford at time
Please leave comments on what you think. All plans flexible as of now.
#18
"More recent publications are quoting both the auto and manual camaro ss in the 12's. The guys getting an ss are basically getting what we get in GT500 for like 30k less -_- "
gt500 base list price is 39k, camaro ss base list price is 31k. Theres dealerships already marking up the SS just as much as the gt500s and they arent even out yet. If i could honestly get a gt500 at 39k i would take it any day of the week over a SS. The LS engines arent built to take lots of boost, ive been there and definately tried that. gt500 with bolt ons can hit 700rwhp and 10's quite easy.. thats insane. On top of that they use the same tremec 6060 transmission and come with a forged engine and a supercharger already on it for a base price of only 8k more..
gt500 base list price is 39k, camaro ss base list price is 31k. Theres dealerships already marking up the SS just as much as the gt500s and they arent even out yet. If i could honestly get a gt500 at 39k i would take it any day of the week over a SS. The LS engines arent built to take lots of boost, ive been there and definately tried that. gt500 with bolt ons can hit 700rwhp and 10's quite easy.. thats insane. On top of that they use the same tremec 6060 transmission and come with a forged engine and a supercharger already on it for a base price of only 8k more..
#19
If the dealer had a GT500 for 8k more I'd have one now but they 10k more just for a Shelby, GT500 for a minimum of 25k more and they actually had a GT500KR but my leg was twitching just looking at it so I didn't bother asking about it.
#20
Im not sure where you are from but there are quite a few left over gt500 2008 right now brand new in houston going for right around 45k which is onlyabout 6 above the base price. Hopefully they go down even more in the next year though! Back more on the subject though..
Electric water pump is a really good upgrade, i saw 9rwhp just adding it to my car.
Electric water pump is a really good upgrade, i saw 9rwhp just adding it to my car.