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#11
im surprised no one pointed this out.
he said stock car, but never specified the details. just because a cars stock doesn't mean they all come from the factory with the same options/equipment.
IE: gears. if hes rolling say 3.31 and hes going against a car with say 3.55 or maybe even a newer gt say 2010 with 3.73 that will make a difference in the outcome.
he said stock car, but never specified the details. just because a cars stock doesn't mean they all come from the factory with the same options/equipment.
IE: gears. if hes rolling say 3.31 and hes going against a car with say 3.55 or maybe even a newer gt say 2010 with 3.73 that will make a difference in the outcome.
Last edited by Bmr4life; 08-08-2011 at 08:16 AM.
#12
Yeah, regardless - I'd be willing to bet that this is completely a tune issue. I think that if you were to get a good aftermarket mail-order custom tune, you'd notice a night/day difference in horsepower/torque, throttle response, mileage, driveability, etc.
Give our tuning specialists over at Bama Performance a call if you'd like. They can write you a killer set of custom tunes (Street, Performance and Race) for whatever octane fuels that you're running and your style of driving. Plus, you'll get Free Tunes for Life, in case you every need any updates for future modifications.
Hope this helps! Let me know if you have absolutely any other questions, whatsoever!
Chris
Give our tuning specialists over at Bama Performance a call if you'd like. They can write you a killer set of custom tunes (Street, Performance and Race) for whatever octane fuels that you're running and your style of driving. Plus, you'll get Free Tunes for Life, in case you every need any updates for future modifications.
Hope this helps! Let me know if you have absolutely any other questions, whatsoever!
Chris
#13
6th Gear Member
The 20" wheels, unless super-expensive for low weight, probably added about 25-50 lbs of rotational mass. The decrease in drivetrain losses from the UDP's and aluminum DS (neither one ADDS crank HP; they simply reduce loses) are being negated by the new loses from the wheel weight. 20" wheels have always been a sore spot for many; either looking like *** or zapping power or both. I'll take less metal ands more rubber any day.
And then there's your tune issue...!
And then there's your tune issue...!
#15
Thanks all! I am truly grateful for this forum and your input. U have saved me headache and money. Now, I bought and installed a sss Adrenaline axle back. I feel a significant increase in torque in low end. The car I mentioned was a 2007 gt . However, I was wrong about mods, as I learned it had a cervini (functional)) ram air hood and frpp stingers. Still, that is not enough to overcome a car equipped and tuned the way mine is. I value your input on the wheels but. I must concede on this issue because I like them enough for a small loss in power. I know that is counter intuitive as it is counter productive. But they look great and I don't have the means for ultra lite right now. I guess I will order my bama tune today, as well as the 4'10 gears from frpp. Enough of my babble, thanks mfers you are the most valuable tool to people like me. Maybe one day I can give advice too. Lol
#16
Thanks all! I am truly grateful for this forum and your input. U have saved me headache and money. Now, I bought and installed a sss Adrenaline axle back. I feel a significant increase in torque in low end. The car I mentioned was a 2007 gt . However, I was wrong about mods, as I learned it had a cervini (functional)) ram air hood and frpp stingers. Still, that is not enough to overcome a car equipped and tuned the way mine is. I value your input on the wheels but. I must concede on this issue because I like them enough for a small loss in power. I know that is counter intuitive as it is counter productive. But they look great and I don't have the means for ultra lite right now. I guess I will order my bama tune today, as well as the 4'10 gears from frpp. Enough of my babble, thanks mfers you are the most valuable tool to people like me. Maybe one day I can give advice too. Lol
#17
Sadly, shorties are a waste of money. If FI is truly in your future, LT's is the only way to go.
As others have said, your tune is ***. Get one from Bama, Brenspeed or another vendor mentioned in these forums.
Did you happen to weigh your wheels? I bet your chrome dipped 20s are very heavy and are slowing you down A LOT. I have some "light weight" 20s and they are still fairly heavy at 55lbs. Your stock 17s were only 45-50lbs, your new 20s are easily 65+. I also doubt the udp's made up for the new wheels.
As others have said, your tune is ***. Get one from Bama, Brenspeed or another vendor mentioned in these forums.
Did you happen to weigh your wheels? I bet your chrome dipped 20s are very heavy and are slowing you down A LOT. I have some "light weight" 20s and they are still fairly heavy at 55lbs. Your stock 17s were only 45-50lbs, your new 20s are easily 65+. I also doubt the udp's made up for the new wheels.
wheels and tires.
beers
#18
OK. Bmr, although I appreciate your condescension, I am compelled to disagree. After significant research I have learned that running straight pipes makes the car run too lean, risking valves being burnt. Evidently(and I have NEVER claimed to be mechanically inclined), the inlet/outlet of fuel and air is a complicated symbiotic relationship. It all works together with specific ratios and mixtures. (14.7:1) I believe. Anyhow, when there is no back pressure the fuel is expelled too quickly from the combustion chamber causing less combustion/power. The fuel is not burnt as efficiently AND there is already too much air to fuel. This also presents a problem concerning proper pressure (both positive and negative) for the cam overlap. So, if you insist on patronizing me while I try to learn this magnificent car, please leave me be. The others on this forum are helpful and friendly enuf. Without you. The difference in power is certainly there, I would know, I drive her everyday. Thanks mfers.
#19
OK. Bmr, although I appreciate your condescension, I am compelled to disagree. After significant research I have learned that running straight pipes makes the car run too lean, risking valves being burnt. Evidently(and I have NEVER claimed to be mechanically inclined), the inlet/outlet of fuel and air is a complicated symbiotic relationship. It all works together with specific ratios and mixtures. (14.7:1) I believe. Anyhow, when there is no back pressure the fuel is expelled too quickly from the combustion chamber causing less combustion/power. The fuel is not burnt as efficiently AND there is already too much air to fuel. This also presents a problem concerning proper pressure (both positive and negative) for the cam overlap. So, if you insist on patronizing me while I try to learn this magnificent car, please leave me be. The others on this forum are helpful and friendly enuf. Without you. The difference in power is certainly there, I would know, I drive her everyday. Thanks mfers.
I re-read what you posted. I don't think you know what axle backs are. Axle back refers to the muffler portion of our exhaust. The part behind the axle, nothing else.
I'm really trying to understand what I said that cut you so bad. Was its the "your tune is ***" line? That was not directed at you, it was directed to your tune which can easily be corrected. Perhaps I should have said "your tune is not optimal". Sorry either way.
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