Thrashard340

Jim, I understand the relationship between HP and torque. But do not understand how his comment relates to mine regarding the evolution of the automotive market.

On the flip side, what should be noted is that these imports can keep up with the 4.6 despite having a smaller displacement and two fewer cylinders. So having a higher torque figure down low is irrelevant if the end result is the same. This was in part, why we have the Coyote now.

onederful100

V6 vs V8 370 vs 2010 Mustang
very similar stock for stock
add mods and FI, and this is where the V8 Mustangs pulls away.
boost for boost, the 2010 Mustang will get more power and tq and will outdo the 370
providing it can hook.
also mod for mod the V8 will get more power

Thrashard340

Absolutely. As the 4.6 is larger in displacement with two more cylinders, it will inherently make more power with the right equipment. But it still doesn't mean that Ford didn't think it was obsolete to the point where they replaced it with the Coyote. That's the point I was driving at.

I think you guys are misinterpreting what I am trying to say. No disrespect to the 4.6. I enjoyed mine every minute I owned it. But there's a reason why it was eventually replaced.

onederful100

i see your point. in its time the 4.6 was great. but the 5.0 is better.
agreed.

Thrashard340

In all fairness to the 4.6, I will add that the 4.6 is what rendered the original 5.0 pushrod obsolete. The 4.6 paved the way for OHC philosophy that was carried into the Coyote. Even back in the late 80's, Ford recognized that the future in terms of HP and efficiency for their V8's were in OHC design. Neither GM nor Chrysler has yet to take it to the level Ford has. GM is still using a pushrod V8 in the Camaro/Corvette. Chrysler's Hemi's are also pushrod. GM and Chrysler's engines require large displacement to produce 400+ HP, while the 5.0 DOHC is capable of hitting 400+ HP with far less displacement. The new 5.0 Coyote has absolutely nothing in common with the original 5.0 pushrod from back in the day. And the Coyote can thank the 4.6 for being part of its creation.

The 4.6 will always have its place in Ford's history.

MrSandman

... and the 4.6 sounds a lot better. I really wish we could have that old school sound again.. the 4.6 gets close.. the new 5.0 sounds "unique".. but the old 5.0 is just sex when it comes to sound.

pascal

That's what push rods do for you........ and the combination of non variable cam timing.

Although the 4.6 4V in the Termi is also pure sex.

rocket237

correction: will always hold a place in my GT !lol.
That ol' school sound I have in my Ram, Course I had too rip out the resonators and muffler, and replace with a series 50 flowmaster, and e-cut out! .

Thrashard340

Ahhhh 2V vs 3V...

How many times have we seen a thread where 3V 4.6 didn't sound as good as a 2V 4.6?

HxCGuitars

I'd have to say that the 2V's definitely have a unique sound when compared to the 3V's. As far as the sound of the new 5.0, it's definitely more of an exotic sound. Took me a bit to like it, but after hearing the cam idle tunes it grew more and more on me. Still think I like the 4.6 sound a bit better, but I'm not knocking the 5.0 at all.

I love my 4.6