BigDinTexas

Also, the big issue I see is the dealership claims:
How could they possibly claim that? I didn't see mention of many go fast parts on there.. and why add "in truth"? Did they just get done lying?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is more difference with the engine than just:

Doesn't the BOSS motor come with forged internals? Does this car come with the stock parts, e.g. intake, and the tuner to return to stock in case you decide you want to?

I think this is a really nice car, but if I were dealing with these people, I would make a list of what is wrong with what they are telling you, plus the TSB that Ford released detailing the steps to determine if an aftermarket tune was loaded on a car and the process to void a person's powertrain warranty, the fact that the BOSS intake requires an aftermarket tune, and then use those points to justify a reduction in price.

Good luck,
Don

drf

Here's the window sticker for the original car ..... hope this works ..... VIN 1ZVBP8CF2B5143652 from ad .....

http://fordlabels.webview.biz/webvie...BP8CF2B5143652

Bmr4life

I believe the dealer. I bet this car does make 20 more HP than a boss. Its a standard GT with boss intake, tune, CAI, and potentially some exhaust work (Magna Flow Performance Exhaust), could just be AB's though.


However, I am CERTAIN, that this is just a 5.0 with boss intake and NOT a true BOSS engine. Positive!

BigDinTexas

I see what you're saying... The way I figured the HP, I considered a 12% drivetrain loss, the rated hp of the BOSS (444 hp) and compared that to the 412 of a stock GT... In order for this car to have 20 hp more than a BOSS it would have to be rated at 464 at the crank. Calculating for the drivetrain loss, that puts it at 408hp at the rear wheels... With the CAI/Tune/Intake, it would likely be close to that...

One way to see prove to the seller this is not a TRUE Boss mill is to check if there is an oil cooler... If the previous owner was going for the appearance of a BOSS, then they may not have added the oil cooler too.

jpmotorsport

Haha. Typical hyperbole by an overactive car salesman in this tough market.

Bottom line is, the ad looks legit - I'd deal with the place as it looks reputable.

But it is clear hyperbole and upsell tactics. I'd trust that car is in 'good' running shape however I'd find out how much it really is worth and level with the guy if I wanted the car that bad. Wanna own it but you gotta own it on your own terms.

Bmr4life

The car looks damn nice and is probably worth close to that. I just don't like that the dealer is "exaggerating" on the engine.

ninefooter

That is really a nice car though.

BleedinBlue

If exaggerating HP was an issue, we'd never buy any performance parts. Check out AM's claims of HP increases for pretty much anything.

Slowbra302

I cannot see the pictures from my current location but one thing i have yet to see anybody mention (not sure if there are pics of it). Doesn't the boss have a welded nameplate on the side of the motor on the valve covers depicting the build number? Doesn't it also come with a certificate of authenticity?

Don't flame if they are in the pictures! I know i still have my SVT Cobra's window sticker as well as the certificate. From just reading everyone's thoughts.... Dunno sounds iffy

Slowbra302

Oh shoot and doesn't the boss have suspension and all sorts of other nifty features? Also, the reason for the price increase has to be the collect-ability i would think.