Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
#21
RE: Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
ORIGINAL: nothsa
I raced an SRT-8 Daytona Edition Charger and rocked him with a 13.4 (my first time running my car ever at the track, very hot/humid day) against his 15.1.
Next I raced my friends daytona from a roll and gave him a car length from the get go and pulled on him extremely bad. JMO SRT-8's aren't lived up to anything that there owners say.
Here's the vid of me at the track vs mr. srt8
Click here to watch Hemi-Down
I raced an SRT-8 Daytona Edition Charger and rocked him with a 13.4 (my first time running my car ever at the track, very hot/humid day) against his 15.1.
Next I raced my friends daytona from a roll and gave him a car length from the get go and pulled on him extremely bad. JMO SRT-8's aren't lived up to anything that there owners say.
Here's the vid of me at the track vs mr. srt8
Click here to watch Hemi-Down
Even then you raced a novice driver, he should have gotten a better pass than 15.1.
#22
RE: Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
ORIGINAL: 05mineral6
Actually, YOU are wrong. Stock Saleen S/C's are rated at 465 hp and 425 ft/lbs, and is way lighter than any srt vehicle. So how do you think that your magnum will run away from a lighter, more powerful car. Curb weight for the Saleen is over 1000 lbs less than an SRT Charger and has 40 more hp. Honestly even with GT mustangs; your 120 hp difference doesnt make up for over 1000 lbs of wieght. Who needs power seats and adjustable pedals?
ORIGINAL: BanditSRT8
Wrong.
1/4 mile times on average are in the low 13's and many SRT8s have dipped into the 12's already. Not bad for a 4600lb family car. Now imagine if we were as light as a Mustang!
The "tranny codes" you speak of are different for the SE and the R/T. The SRT8 also gets a different tranny. please do research before speaking with authority, or add "IMO" to your posts.
Stock for stock the R/T Charger/300C/R/T Magnum are quicker than a Mustang GT. You also get tons more options and quality in the Dodge/Chrysler than you do in the Mustang. Compare the option sheets on each manufacturers respective websites.
Stock for stock no Mustang made can outperform an SRT8 variant. The only Mustang that can is the Shelby GT500, but then again you get far less options for more money. The only other I can think of is the Shinoda Stage 2.
I'm not hatin' on the Stangs, just pointing out glaring errors in your statements. The Mustang was designed as a performance vehicle, and does pretty well. The R/T Charger and Magnum as well as the 300C were designed as a more luxurious car that somehow manages to outperform most "performance" cars. And the SRT8's even at their bloated 4600lb weight and 4 doors constantly shame many performance engineered cars.
Interested in the new design of the Mustang I stopped by a local Ford dealer to see the Saleens they had on display. I looked at their top-tier model on the floor and it happened to be a blown Saleen producing if I remember correctly 400hp. I got in and immediately asked where the options were such as NAV system, heated seats, power seats for both driver AND passenger, auto dimming mirror, hands-free bluetooth for my cellphone, power adjustable pedals and the like. The salesman told me and I quote "Sir, you cannot buy a car with this much power in this price range ($65k) with those kinds of options." I then took him outside to my car and proved him wrong. For less than $45k I have all that and more with more power baseline stock, and in a heavier car can outrun the Saleen.
Ford has made a nic elooking design in the new Mustangs, and you get a lot of bang for the buck plus you can easily mod them. The higher ticket "packages" such as Roush, Saleen and so on are not that great a value, but still nice competitive cars.
ORIGINAL: one_focused_svt
Of course! The products that Dodge and Chrysler offer with a Hemi aren't all that fast, take for example the Charger SRT-8 with a 6.1L Hemi Making 425 HP, it does 0-60 in over 5.2 seconds and the 1/4 mile in just under 14, now this is one of the most powerful cars that Dodge makes besides the Viper (but it doesn't have a Hemi anyway) and a stock stang is quicker, as for the trucks that pack about 330HP but have a very inefficent driveline and come in at a hefty weight, so unless it is a heavily modified newer model or a classic muscle machine beast, our chances are very good the stang will emerge victouius once again One more note I think it is absolutely pathetic that Dodge doesn't even offer a manual for the SRT-8 Charger, if you check the tranny codes they are the same for every engine model from the little V6 to the 6.1 Hemi what a hunk of junk IMO.
Of course! The products that Dodge and Chrysler offer with a Hemi aren't all that fast, take for example the Charger SRT-8 with a 6.1L Hemi Making 425 HP, it does 0-60 in over 5.2 seconds and the 1/4 mile in just under 14, now this is one of the most powerful cars that Dodge makes besides the Viper (but it doesn't have a Hemi anyway) and a stock stang is quicker, as for the trucks that pack about 330HP but have a very inefficent driveline and come in at a hefty weight, so unless it is a heavily modified newer model or a classic muscle machine beast, our chances are very good the stang will emerge victouius once again One more note I think it is absolutely pathetic that Dodge doesn't even offer a manual for the SRT-8 Charger, if you check the tranny codes they are the same for every engine model from the little V6 to the 6.1 Hemi what a hunk of junk IMO.
1/4 mile times on average are in the low 13's and many SRT8s have dipped into the 12's already. Not bad for a 4600lb family car. Now imagine if we were as light as a Mustang!
The "tranny codes" you speak of are different for the SE and the R/T. The SRT8 also gets a different tranny. please do research before speaking with authority, or add "IMO" to your posts.
Stock for stock the R/T Charger/300C/R/T Magnum are quicker than a Mustang GT. You also get tons more options and quality in the Dodge/Chrysler than you do in the Mustang. Compare the option sheets on each manufacturers respective websites.
Stock for stock no Mustang made can outperform an SRT8 variant. The only Mustang that can is the Shelby GT500, but then again you get far less options for more money. The only other I can think of is the Shinoda Stage 2.
I'm not hatin' on the Stangs, just pointing out glaring errors in your statements. The Mustang was designed as a performance vehicle, and does pretty well. The R/T Charger and Magnum as well as the 300C were designed as a more luxurious car that somehow manages to outperform most "performance" cars. And the SRT8's even at their bloated 4600lb weight and 4 doors constantly shame many performance engineered cars.
Interested in the new design of the Mustang I stopped by a local Ford dealer to see the Saleens they had on display. I looked at their top-tier model on the floor and it happened to be a blown Saleen producing if I remember correctly 400hp. I got in and immediately asked where the options were such as NAV system, heated seats, power seats for both driver AND passenger, auto dimming mirror, hands-free bluetooth for my cellphone, power adjustable pedals and the like. The salesman told me and I quote "Sir, you cannot buy a car with this much power in this price range ($65k) with those kinds of options." I then took him outside to my car and proved him wrong. For less than $45k I have all that and more with more power baseline stock, and in a heavier car can outrun the Saleen.
Ford has made a nic elooking design in the new Mustangs, and you get a lot of bang for the buck plus you can easily mod them. The higher ticket "packages" such as Roush, Saleen and so on are not that great a value, but still nice competitive cars.
And I know my car can run the Saleen because I have beaten modded Mustangs that had a little more power. My car is not stock.
Back when I was in my 20's and driving Z28's, Vette's and other such cars I too probably would have said "who needs NAV and power accessories" because I thought for my money all I needed was speed. I know now that I want speed AND luxury. I like the feeling of beating a fart-can muffler Eclipse with a week's worth of groceries in back while running my A/C. My days of riding around in a caR with few creature comforts, uncomfortable seats, etc are over. When you pay over $40,000 for a car you should expect to get more... sadly Chevy and Ford do not subscribe to this idea. That's why I switched from being a Chevy guy to a Mopar guy.
#23
RE: Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
ORIGINAL: 06hoss
+1 on that 05mineral6. Who needs a NAV system on a hotrod? Who needs four doors on a hot rod? Adjustable pedals? Man, buy a Buick for Pete's sake! Anybody think the Charger is pulling down sales numbers like the new stangs? Wait, I don't hear nothin but crickets...guess that's a no. There's a reason they're going to make the Challenger...because the Charger is a big old butt ugly grocery getter with a big motor! Doesn't even matter if it's fast or not. Sorry guys, didn't really mean to rant, but somebody had to do it. [:@]
As far as the license plate goes, you might want to check to see if your state has a data base that you can access for personalized plates. Here in KY, you can go online, put in want you think you want and see if somebody has the exact same thing already or something similar. I originally wanted 06PONY, but it took the car so long to come in that somebody snagged that one so I went with 06HOSS. Sounds meaner anyway.
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+1 on that 05mineral6. Who needs a NAV system on a hotrod? Who needs four doors on a hot rod? Adjustable pedals? Man, buy a Buick for Pete's sake! Anybody think the Charger is pulling down sales numbers like the new stangs? Wait, I don't hear nothin but crickets...guess that's a no. There's a reason they're going to make the Challenger...because the Charger is a big old butt ugly grocery getter with a big motor! Doesn't even matter if it's fast or not. Sorry guys, didn't really mean to rant, but somebody had to do it. [:@]
As far as the license plate goes, you might want to check to see if your state has a data base that you can access for personalized plates. Here in KY, you can go online, put in want you think you want and see if somebody has the exact same thing already or something similar. I originally wanted 06PONY, but it took the car so long to come in that somebody snagged that one so I went with 06HOSS. Sounds meaner anyway.
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The Charger might not sell as well as the Mustang, but it is slightly higher priced. Not many 18 year old kids are driving $35k and $45k cars. Any kid can afford a Mustang... look how many drive them. Those that can easily afford that much generally go a different route that is higher end than the Stang or Charger.
I can't wait for the Challenger. I have been on the pre-list for the 1st SRT version in my state for quite some time now. With the R/T expected to be at 450hp stock we can only speculate that the SRT will break the 500hp mark easily. Shame the only way you can get that in a Ford is on a $50k++ GT500. Once the Challenger hits the streets we'll hear a great silence from Mustang and Camaro owners.
And as far as big old ugly grocery getters with big motors go... you need a history lesson. Your Mustang was born in an era defined by this idealism. The Hurst/Olds 442, the Cuda, the GTO, and the muscle car that has been consistantly referred to by those that matter as the greatest muscle car of all time, the 70 Chevelle LS6... all were big, extremely heavy, and made up for it with gas guzzling V8's. Even smaller cars like the Dart (a dragstrip terror although butt ugly), Nova, and Mustang weighed a lot, but overcame this with big motors. Most were sold as family cars and then modified to be racers, and some further enhanced by independent dealerships in special packages (Yenko for one) for more power out of those family oriented cars.
If your state allows 7 letters you might consider "ONLYAGT"
#24
RE: Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
This info is straight from MT mag. 0-60 looks like the SRT8 has us but 1/4 time is about the same......Drivers race I say.
Charger SRT8
0-30 2.1
Charger SRT8
2005 Mustang GT
0-30 2.1
1.8
0-40 2.92.8
0-50 3.83.9
0-60 5.05.1
0-70 6.26.7
0-80 7.88.5
0-90 9.810.6
0-100 11.913.1
Passing, 45-65 mph 2.42.8
Quarter Mile 13.5 sec @ 106.3 mph13.5 sec @103.6
#25
RE: Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
Now this is what I like, American Muscle busting on American Muscle. 8 cyl vs. 8 cyl. not some crappy 4 cyl car. I think Dodge has done a great job putting some big motors in their cars and trucks and making them very fast for family haulers. Ford has a totally different approach on family cars and I think in 4 years will have 1 rear wheel drive car... Mustang.
I think it comes down the preference. I think the 300C while certainly "unique" is badged around here as a poor mans Bentley. The Magnum looks like a herse but is a practical car.
I think it comes down the preference. I think the 300C while certainly "unique" is badged around here as a poor mans Bentley. The Magnum looks like a herse but is a practical car.
#27
RE: Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
I like the SRT cars but how can you have a line of performace car and only offer a manual transmission in two of the cars. (Viper, Ram SRT-10)
#28
RE: Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
ORIGINAL: BanditSRT8
No, I'M not wrong, the misinformed Ford salesman apparently was.
And I know my car can run the Saleen because I have beaten modded Mustangs that had a little more power. My car is not stock.
Back when I was in my 20's and driving Z28's, Vette's and other such cars I too probably would have said "who needs NAV and power accessories" because I thought for my money all I needed was speed. I know now that I want speed AND luxury. I like the feeling of beating a fart-can muffler Eclipse with a week's worth of groceries in back while running my A/C. My days of riding around in a caR with few creature comforts, uncomfortable seats, etc are over. When you pay over $40,000 for a car you should expect to get more... sadly Chevy and Ford do not subscribe to this idea. That's why I switched from being a Chevy guy to a Mopar guy.
No, I'M not wrong, the misinformed Ford salesman apparently was.
And I know my car can run the Saleen because I have beaten modded Mustangs that had a little more power. My car is not stock.
Back when I was in my 20's and driving Z28's, Vette's and other such cars I too probably would have said "who needs NAV and power accessories" because I thought for my money all I needed was speed. I know now that I want speed AND luxury. I like the feeling of beating a fart-can muffler Eclipse with a week's worth of groceries in back while running my A/C. My days of riding around in a caR with few creature comforts, uncomfortable seats, etc are over. When you pay over $40,000 for a car you should expect to get more... sadly Chevy and Ford do not subscribe to this idea. That's why I switched from being a Chevy guy to a Mopar guy.
#29
RE: Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
ORIGINAL: 05mineral6
What are your dyno numbers? What mods do you have that allow you to beat a car with more power and 1250lbs less weight? enlighten us. When did nav systems come out? I think ppl drove without them for a long time. And honestly, for 40k, you could buy a brand new bimmer and have more luxury, quality and better handling then anything that dodge has EVER put out. I dont think that Ford is luxury but to say that dodge is is quite a stretch. Honestly the interiors of the new vette and SUV's from chevy are Very luxurious for what they are. I also HIGHLY doubt that the SRT challenger will be even close to under 50k. Motor Trend could only get 13.5 outta their SRT. They got a 13.5 outta their mustang. I just don't see how you can say that the SRT outperforms it.
ORIGINAL: BanditSRT8
No, I'M not wrong, the misinformed Ford salesman apparently was.
And I know my car can run the Saleen because I have beaten modded Mustangs that had a little more power. My car is not stock.
Back when I was in my 20's and driving Z28's, Vette's and other such cars I too probably would have said "who needs NAV and power accessories" because I thought for my money all I needed was speed. I know now that I want speed AND luxury. I like the feeling of beating a fart-can muffler Eclipse with a week's worth of groceries in back while running my A/C. My days of riding around in a caR with few creature comforts, uncomfortable seats, etc are over. When you pay over $40,000 for a car you should expect to get more... sadly Chevy and Ford do not subscribe to this idea. That's why I switched from being a Chevy guy to a Mopar guy.
No, I'M not wrong, the misinformed Ford salesman apparently was.
And I know my car can run the Saleen because I have beaten modded Mustangs that had a little more power. My car is not stock.
Back when I was in my 20's and driving Z28's, Vette's and other such cars I too probably would have said "who needs NAV and power accessories" because I thought for my money all I needed was speed. I know now that I want speed AND luxury. I like the feeling of beating a fart-can muffler Eclipse with a week's worth of groceries in back while running my A/C. My days of riding around in a caR with few creature comforts, uncomfortable seats, etc are over. When you pay over $40,000 for a car you should expect to get more... sadly Chevy and Ford do not subscribe to this idea. That's why I switched from being a Chevy guy to a Mopar guy.
ORIGINAL: BanditSRT8
No, I'M not wrong, the misinformed Ford salesman apparently was.
And I know my car can run the Saleen because I have beaten modded Mustangs that had a little more power. My car is not stock.
Back when I was in my 20's and driving Z28's, Vette's and other such cars I too probably would have said "who needs NAV and power accessories" because I thought for my money all I needed was speed. I know now that I want speed AND luxury. I like the feeling of beating a fart-can muffler Eclipse with a week's worth of groceries in back while running my A/C. My days of riding around in a caR with few creature comforts, uncomfortable seats, etc are over. When you pay over $40,000 for a car you should expect to get more... sadly Chevy and Ford do not subscribe to this idea. That's why I switched from being a Chevy guy to a Mopar guy.
ORIGINAL: 05mineral6
Actually, YOU are wrong. Stock Saleen S/C's are rated at 465 hp and 425 ft/lbs, and is way lighter than any srt vehicle. So how do you think that your magnum will run away from a lighter, more powerful car. Curb weight for the Saleen is over 1000 lbs less than an SRT Charger and has 40 more hp. Honestly even with GT mustangs; your 120 hp difference doesnt make up for over 1000 lbs of wieght. Who needs power seats and adjustable pedals?
ORIGINAL: BanditSRT8
Wrong.
1/4 mile times on average are in the low 13's and many SRT8s have dipped into the 12's already. Not bad for a 4600lb family car. Now imagine if we were as light as a Mustang!
The "tranny codes" you speak of are different for the SE and the R/T. The SRT8 also gets a different tranny. please do research before speaking with authority, or add "IMO" to your posts.
Stock for stock the R/T Charger/300C/R/T Magnum are quicker than a Mustang GT. You also get tons more options and quality in the Dodge/Chrysler than you do in the Mustang. Compare the option sheets on each manufacturers respective websites.
Stock for stock no Mustang made can outperform an SRT8 variant. The only Mustang that can is the Shelby GT500, but then again you get far less options for more money. The only other I can think of is the Shinoda Stage 2.
I'm not hatin' on the Stangs, just pointing out glaring errors in your statements. The Mustang was designed as a performance vehicle, and does pretty well. The R/T Charger and Magnum as well as the 300C were designed as a more luxurious car that somehow manages to outperform most "performance" cars. And the SRT8's even at their bloated 4600lb weight and 4 doors constantly shame many performance engineered cars.
Interested in the new design of the Mustang I stopped by a local Ford dealer to see the Saleens they had on display. I looked at their top-tier model on the floor and it happened to be a blown Saleen producing if I remember correctly 400hp. I got in and immediately asked where the options were such as NAV system, heated seats, power seats for both driver AND passenger, auto dimming mirror, hands-free bluetoaoth for my cellphone, power adjustable pedals and the like. The salesman told me and I quote "Sir, you cannot buy a car with this much power in this price range ($65k) with those kinds of options." I then took him outside to my car and proved him wrong. For less than $45k I have all that and more with more power baseline stock, and in a heavier car can outrun the Saleen.
Ford has made a nic elooking design in the new Mustangs, and you get a lot of bang for the buck plus you can easily mod them. The higher ticket "packages" such as Roush, Saleen and so on are not that great a value, but still nice competitive cars.
ORIGINAL: one_focused_svt
Of course! The products that Dodge and Chrysler offer with a Hemi aren't all that fast, take for example the Charger SRT-8 with a 6.1L Hemi Making 425 HP, it does 0-60 in over 5.2 seconds and the 1/4 mile in just under 14, now this is one of the most powerful cars that Dodge makes besides the Viper (but it doesn't have a Hemi anyway) and a stock stang is quicker, as for the trucks that pack about 330HP but have a very inefficent driveline and come in at a hefty weight, so unless it is a heavily modified newer model or a classic muscle machine beast, our chances are very good the stang will emerge victouius once again One more note I think it is absolutely pathetic that Dodge doesn't even offer a manual for the SRT-8 Charger, if you check the tranny codes they are the same for every engine model from the little V6 to the 6.1 Hemi what a hunk of junk IMO.
Of course! The products that Dodge and Chrysler offer with a Hemi aren't all that fast, take for example the Charger SRT-8 with a 6.1L Hemi Making 425 HP, it does 0-60 in over 5.2 seconds and the 1/4 mile in just under 14, now this is one of the most powerful cars that Dodge makes besides the Viper (but it doesn't have a Hemi anyway) and a stock stang is quicker, as for the trucks that pack about 330HP but have a very inefficent driveline and come in at a hefty weight, so unless it is a heavily modified newer model or a classic muscle machine beast, our chances are very good the stang will emerge victouius once again One more note I think it is absolutely pathetic that Dodge doesn't even offer a manual for the SRT-8 Charger, if you check the tranny codes they are the same for every engine model from the little V6 to the 6.1 Hemi what a hunk of junk IMO.
1/4 mile times on average are in the low 13's and many SRT8s have dipped into the 12's already. Not bad for a 4600lb family car. Now imagine if we were as light as a Mustang!
The "tranny codes" you speak of are different for the SE and the R/T. The SRT8 also gets a different tranny. please do research before speaking with authority, or add "IMO" to your posts.
Stock for stock the R/T Charger/300C/R/T Magnum are quicker than a Mustang GT. You also get tons more options and quality in the Dodge/Chrysler than you do in the Mustang. Compare the option sheets on each manufacturers respective websites.
Stock for stock no Mustang made can outperform an SRT8 variant. The only Mustang that can is the Shelby GT500, but then again you get far less options for more money. The only other I can think of is the Shinoda Stage 2.
I'm not hatin' on the Stangs, just pointing out glaring errors in your statements. The Mustang was designed as a performance vehicle, and does pretty well. The R/T Charger and Magnum as well as the 300C were designed as a more luxurious car that somehow manages to outperform most "performance" cars. And the SRT8's even at their bloated 4600lb weight and 4 doors constantly shame many performance engineered cars.
Interested in the new design of the Mustang I stopped by a local Ford dealer to see the Saleens they had on display. I looked at their top-tier model on the floor and it happened to be a blown Saleen producing if I remember correctly 400hp. I got in and immediately asked where the options were such as NAV system, heated seats, power seats for both driver AND passenger, auto dimming mirror, hands-free bluetoaoth for my cellphone, power adjustable pedals and the like. The salesman told me and I quote "Sir, you cannot buy a car with this much power in this price range ($65k) with those kinds of options." I then took him outside to my car and proved him wrong. For less than $45k I have all that and more with more power baseline stock, and in a heavier car can outrun the Saleen.
Ford has made a nic elooking design in the new Mustangs, and you get a lot of bang for the buck plus you can easily mod them. The higher ticket "packages" such as Roush, Saleen and so on are not that great a value, but still nice competitive cars.
And I know my car can run the Saleen because I have beaten modded Mustangs that had a little more power. My car is not stock.
Back when I was in my 20's and driving Z28's, Vette's and other such cars I too probably would have said "who needs NAV and power accessories" because I thought for my money all I needed was speed. I know now that I want speed AND luxury. I like the feeling of beating a fart-can muffler Eclipse with a week's worth of groceries in back while running my A/C. My days of riding around in a caR with few creature comforts, uncomfortable seats, etc are over. When you pay over $40,000 for a car you should expect to get more... sadly Chevy and Ford do not subscribe to this idea. That's why I switched from being a Chevy guy to a Mopar guy.
I could have gotten a Charger SRT-8 easily, I am 16 too, but I decided on the mustang because it wasnt a grocery getter with a big engine... You are also talking about how much more power your car has than the mustang, but look at it this way, you got a boat with wheels and a 6.1 L engine. That cost about 15,000 more than a mustang GT. Mustang has a lighter weight car with a 4.6 L engine.
Your other point about how many younger people who have mustangs is obvious. Duh a 16 year old kid can get a mustang. They have been out for over 40 years there are plenty of cheap ones out there. I bet if the Charger didn't fail the first time, there would be a bunch of younger kids driving them as well.
#30
RE: Custom Lic Plate Frame Quote What Do Ya Think? (See Message 4 Details)
What I think is funny is that a JEEP SRT8 will waste a Mustang GT. And the Jeeps weighs almost 5,000 Lbs!!! Someone with a totally stock Jeep just posted their time slip on one of the boards:
13.022 @ 107.39 mph
60' = 1.776
13.022 @ 107.39 mph
60' = 1.776