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Old 03-28-2009, 11:55 PM   #1
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i wasnt sure where to put this, but i figured it was considered a rumor and is up for discussion but here it is.

i am hearing that by 2011 obama wants to outlaw all vehicles that do not achieve 35mpg? and some cars are eligible to recieve modifications to achieve this via factory warranty and parts upgrade. is it just me or does this sound incredibly rediculous? i drive a......well i drive a 92 honda civic(dont make fun of me), im still in school so i need good gas mileage. but i only average between 32-34 mpg on an average basis. highway i get around 35-39(depending on cruise speed). is there anyone out there that also thinks this new fuel economy restriction is a load of bs? or is it just me?
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Old 03-29-2009, 04:51 AM   #2
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Load of BS IMO......he can mandate new cars to have that by a certain date but I doubt he would or could do so for every car out there. If he wants he can buy me a new Ford Fusion Hybrid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I will take the interest off as taxes for the next tax season!!!
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Old 03-29-2009, 06:52 AM   #3
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Obama Pushes Review of State Emissions

President Barack ObamaPresident Barack Obama is wasting no time to overturn, review, and otherwise stir up business from the George W. Bush administration that he disagrees with. Last week, it was closing the controversial Guantanamo Bay prison facility. This week, it is fuel economy. And Obama is pursuing it from the tailpipe.

The White House is directing the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to review a an application by California and 13 other states to set tighter restrictions on automotive emissions. To do so would mean stricter limits than currently required on the federal level, and it would effectively increase the fuel economy standards.

The administration feels increasing fuel economy standards further is “doable.”

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said, “The actions that the President took today put us on the path when we realize a fuel efficiency standard of 35 miles to the gallon -- it's 27.5 now -- 35 miles to the gallon will constitute a savings of 2 million barrels of oil a day, which is roughly comparable to the amount of oil that we import each day from the Persian Gulf.”

In addition, President Obama signed a memoranda at a White House ceremony today directing the Transportation Department to establish higher fuel economy standards for vehicles by model year 2011

These moves support Obama’s drive to increase our national energy independence. While the need is certainly there, lawmakers should take care to work closely with the troubled auto industry to ensure any revised targets can be achieved, or they risk legislating further economic hardships for automakers.
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:05 AM   #4
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The above is fine and dandy to me but it is for 2011 model yr vehicles...should have been done a long time ago. I just was not sure if the OP meant all vehicles or just those made 2011 and beyond. Thought maybe he was wondering if all vehicles would have to meet this requirement somehow by then not just the 2011 models...my bad
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:09 AM   #5
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35 mpg is all a fleet average anyway where companies like Ford use the Fusion and Focus to to pull up the average of vehicles like the F-150 and Mustang. The way the new Fusion hybrid is looking, that number shouldn't be too hard to meet if that car becomes a hot seller which I suspect it will.
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Old 03-29-2009, 01:44 PM   #6
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well if it states that the company only needs to sell them at 35+ mpg then that is ok, there are always after market mods.....cause nobody wants a bunch of muscle cars running around that cant break 15 in the 1/4 lol
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Old 03-29-2009, 02:37 PM   #7
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They cannot make it illegal to drive cars that dont get a certain MPG. The government makes a ton of money off of Gas Guzzler taxes on supercars and other low MPG vehicles anyways... why would they want to get rid of that tax? THEY CAN mandate that all vehicles made AFTER X.X.2011 have to have a certain MPG. China has a similar law about all cars getting a certain MPG (I think).
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They cannot make it illegal to drive cars that dont get a certain MPG. The government makes a ton of money off of Gas Guzzler taxes on supercars and other low MPG vehicles anyways... why would they want to get rid of that tax? THEY CAN mandate that all vehicles made AFTER X.X.2011 have to have a certain MPG. China has a similar law about all cars getting a certain MPG (I think).
ah i see, well thanks for clarifing it for me, i was afraid i would never have a fast mustang lol
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:02 AM   #9
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oh god this sounds almost as bad as the mileage tax in California
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:52 AM   #10
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Think gas is expensive now, wait until they start losing that 2 million barrels of oil a days in sales. They'll raise gas prices to make up the difference.
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