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Old 11-02-2009, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by force
I think anyone hoping to see it tuned to 400+hp out the door will be a little disappointed. I expect to see it in the 340-360 range.

My reasoning? Think about it for a second. This engine is gonna go along side the 6.2 in the raptor. And thats tuned to 400hp/400tq. Why offer 2 engines with roughly the same performance, only one costs a premium. Unless they're gonna offer a different cam/heads in the raptor to make the hp lower, which I don't see them doing thanks to economic reasons, the 5.0 stang and 5.0 f150s will probably have about the same power output. Just my 2 cents worth of speculation.
The current 4.6L 3v makes 315 HP.

The Coyote were talking:
-2 more cam shafts
-8 more valves
-increased compression ratio
-increased displacement by at least 19+ C.I.(In order to be a true 5.0L)
-newer tuning and refining technology

400hp/400tq would be simple to achieve with those additions.

The Raptor engine doe's make me confused though...Perhaps it has a badass torque curve made for trucks, but not as great top end as the Coyote? Hmm
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:29 PM
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Also keep in mind the Coyote would'nt need all 400hp to compete with the Camaro/Challenger...Since it's the has the lightest curb weight of the bunch.
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mustangcat
The current 4.6L 3v makes 315 HP.

The Coyote were talking:
-2 more cam shafts
-8 more valves
-increased compression ratio
-increased displacement by at least 19+ C.I.(In order to be a true 5.0L)
-newer tuning and refining technology

400hp/400tq would be simple to achieve with those additions.

The Raptor engine doe's make me confused though...Perhaps it has a badass torque curve made for trucks, but not as great top end as the Coyote? Hmm
I'm aware of the differences. However, I think they're just gonna go the conservative route like ford always does (the 6.2 makes 500hp at the crank very easily remember, and from what I've heard, does it 50 states emissions compliant) for fuel economy reasons. We'll see, but for now I'm sticking to my predictions.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:00 PM
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Anybody think it might just come out detuned for insurance reasons? They could market it as 370 hp because that will be cheaper than insuring a 400+ hp car?

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Old 11-02-2009, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt's 95 Stang
Anybody think it might just come out detuned for insurance reasons? They could market it as 370 hp because that will be cheaper than insuring a 400+ hp car?

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Ehh...I'm not sure. I know they did that in the past with high horsepower cars, but I'd assume insurance companies would smart up to that and give them the same rates.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:08 AM
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No matter what the HP, you can bet there is a lot of R&D going on at Roush
Performance testing etc. I would think that Roush Performance has been involved all along. Since it is a new motor it will require a ton of new performance parts.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:13 AM
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We'll all know when Ford makes the official powertrain announcements in early December.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nineinchnail1024
We'll all know when Ford makes the official powertrain announcements in early December.
I know they release new specifications on cars being made for the next year usually by the end of the current year, but is this fact for the mustang?
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:03 AM
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They are set to announce it at the LA Auto Show, Dec 4th through the 13..
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gzmo
I know they release new specifications on cars being made for the next year usually by the end of the current year, but is this fact for the mustang?
Absolute fact.
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