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brand new i've seen them for like 1600 now...from past experiences, DONT PAY CASH for something u bought from a seller over the internet. use paypal because some people are f**kers. guy tried to send me a "S-Trim with 10psi pulley, FULL KIT" and it ended up being an A-Trim, stock pulley, 50% of kit. soi sent it back and had my dad talk to mastercard for me...got my money back and he got his "S-Trim" backin the f**kin mail, thank God for paypal