The bottle heater you ordered is available in both 12vdc and 110vac. You ordered the 110vac model which is part # 14164-110nos. If you want the 12vdc model you need to order part #14164nos.

The msd four stage timing retard model 8975 does retard your timing using dials adjustable from 0 to 9 degrees timing per channel. This msd model must be used with an msd ignition system and will not work if you do not have one. It has four stages of timing retard that are cumulative in effect. It is important that if you do not use any of the channels that you set those channels to zero and ground their activation wire. You activate the desired retard channel by opening up the path to ground on the selected channel. The unit then retards the timing according to how many degrees you have selected on that channels dial. Open up another wire and that channels retard dial value is added to the first for a total degrees retarded.

I think it is very wise to return the universal sportsman fogger kit and exchange it for a kit more fitting your current application. I am not saying it is not a good kit or you could not have gotten it to work, but there are most definitely cheaper and simpler ways for you to meet your goals with nitrous. There are also some serious engine safety issues that you need to be concerned with when using that type of kit in your application that will never be known by those who have not actually done it, but we will not need to get into those issues now. As for recommendations for a good nitrous kit that is well suited to your application, I would go with an adjustable single sprayer dry nitrous kit that was designed for your engine/car. That way when you follow the installation instructions as others have suggested, they will be for your application and not a universal application where they assume you already know a lot about nitrous systems, thus making installation and tuning much easier. There are many good companies out there that produce fine nitrous kits such as NOS, Edelbrock, and Nitrous Express just to name a few. 150 HP is about the max for a kit like that. The other option, which is a real good option, is to purchase a plate kit that installs between your upper and lower intake manifold. They are usually ajustable from 100 to 300 Hp and more expensive than the single sprayer dry kits. These are great wet kits and I have used them to about the 400 Hp level with great success. I know you do not need all that spray but I thought I would throw it out there as an option. Of the plate kits, Edelbrock makes a nice plate that gives you the ability to adjust your n/f ratio individually for each runner just like the sportsman fogger system but without all the installation hassles. But again, at 150 Hp you really should not need to adjust individual cylinder n/f ratios as that is more needed when at the 300 Hp level or above. NOS and Nitrous Express also make great wet plate kits for your application. At 150 Hp you will need to think about upgrades to your fuel system if you do not already have them.

 

^^ I have an Edebbrock performer II and mone of the companies make a plate system for mthe Performer II upper and lower. Im actually considering purchasing the kit for the performer I and having a machine shop duplicate my current one inch spacer and add the runners and taps into it.

Is that something you think is a good idea? I need to figure this out today so i can start making the setup.

Thank you very much for your help.

 

Are you using the Edelbrock 5.0 Performer RPM II intake part # 7123 (satin finish) or #71233 (black finish)? If so, Edelbrock makes a nitrous plate kit part #70058 that installs between your upper and lower intake manifold. It is a wet plate kit adjustable from 150 to 300 Hp and it is capable of individual cylinder n/f ratio tuning. It should come with precision stainless steel jets as that is an absolute must for this type of application. (#70058 is just the plate kit alone. You must add a bottle kit and solenoid control relay to form a complete kit if you do not already have them.) But I still think that a single nozzle dry kit will be much cheaper and easier to install and use at the 150 Hp max level. Unless of course you have future plans for spraying it more or you are noticing very large a/f ratio differences from cylinder to cylinder and want to have the ability to adjust individual cylinder n/f ratios to protect your engine on the hose, but this is rarely an issue at under 150 Hp.

 

I do plan to go over 150hp and I want to setup things for future mods. Im calling Edelbrock right now to see if i can make it work and get this kit.

I called Edelbrock a good half dozen times and they told me they do not make ANYTHING for the performer II... Why wouldnt they have known about this?? LOL

 

70058 has been discontinued threw Edelbrock. its no longer avail threw anywhere..

 

Discontinued, that stinks.

 

the heater SHOULD be like you described, NOS heaters have their own relay and switch just like the kit... i use a red switch for the heater and blue for the juice

any of the kits will be what you want, some are partial to wet, some dry....some like NX some like NOS

i like NOS

the timing retarder should plug into your msd and dial the timing where you want it...it's pretty basic

i suppose i have a question for you based on your requests ??? what makes you intent on 125-150 ??? a certain HP goal ?

100 hp does a lot more than you'd think... and is the best bang for your buck... i've knocked off 1.5 seconds on 100 jets, and still able to get get 10 full runs out of a bottle

the reason i ask is there is a rule of thumb as wet V dry

dry kits are typically used for 100 jets and less... wet for 125+

a lot of what u ask is personal preferance, so your answers will vary

 

wow.. like 20 posts just after i started typing

 

im currently running 335RWHP and my compression is 9.5 to 1 w/ a custom cam ground for NOS. I purchased a NOS kit thats 125 - 300. Its a plate system and the plate will NOT fit my car. Im going to have the plate fabbed up to work for my car and im going to try it up. Its a wet system and it taps into my stock fuel rail.

I dont know what else I will need though.

I have a digital timing retarder from MSD, bottle blanket, bottle heater, purge kit. 10lb bottle kit. The kit i ordered is:
02119NOS

I know the plate in the kit wont work with my car so like i said im going to have one fabbed up.

What else will i need.

WOT switch?
NOS bottle gauge?

Thise are the only 2 things i can think of needing that dont come with what I ordered.

Should I get an extra bottle? 10 runs is about it with 100 Jets, im looking to do a 125 - 150 shot..

 

yes you have a wot switch, it is mechanical... it's the micro-switch, it's in the wiring kit

i like bottle guages, but i look a hood guage better so i can see it all the time

extra bottle won't hurt... you don't wanna fill up at the track.. they rape you, or you don't wanna run out.. so a spare is always good

check ebay, you can get brand new NOS bottles for $200 , they are $300-ish everywhere else

if you score a used bottle, look at the original hydro date to see how old it is

in the shoulder of the bottle.. after all the DOT numbers there will be (2) 2-digit numbers separated by a funny looking "A" thats the month and year it was made

i always like the newest bottle i can find... less chance some schmuck used a torch on it
oh btw... get an inline filter... cheap insurance of not clogging up a selonoid and making it "hang" open