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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Default 2011 5.0 alignment

My Konis, Sport springs, and HD strut mounts are in hand, and now I need an alignment. The car is a DD, but I live for track days. I've done 4 track sessions with the stock suspension and alignment, and my front tires are worn noticeably on the outside. The backs aren't quite as bad, but still worn worse on the outside. I'm hoping better body control and a little more negative camber will help.

I have to say I like the stock balance of my car. I'm really trying to separate my cornering/braking/accelerating, and I find when I get it right the car is pretty neutral. It only under/over steers when I screw up my control inputs. Usually I stay on the brakes too deep (minor under-steer), or add throttle to early (minor over-steer). Blah, blah, blah. I don't want to unbalance the car to over-steer with too much negative camber...

I was going to go with -1.5 camber, and stock caster and toe.What do you think?

Can you even add negative camber to the back of a Mustang?
Old Jul 9, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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The rear has no adjustability. Track only cars they will bend the axle, not something you'd want to do.

1.5 - 1.75 is a good setting on the front.
Old Jul 10, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ansibe
I was going to go with -1.5 camber, and stock caster and toe.What do you think?
That sounds like a reasonable compromise, though I think your normal cornering would have to be harder than most any of the other DD traffic as well.

Can you even add negative camber to the back of a Mustang?
Not easily, but it is do-able with methods involving lots of heat, brute force bending, or cutting and welding. This isn't a very practical mod for most people without access to a race shop, as there is a limit to the amount of misalignment that the axle and side gear splines will tolerate long term. I know of only one or two DIY efforts. I've been tempted to do a little hot work on the (non-DD) Malibu's axle, but never seem to get around to it.

Since you're questioning whether it's even possible to add negative camber to a stick axle, have you ever measured your rear cambers? I doubt that they're exactly 0.0°. Bet your rear toe isn't 0.00° either.


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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Thanks guys.

I think I'll stick to -1.5, and leave the rear alone. I haven't measured either end, but the car feels good, and that's the goal, right?

Norm, my DD cornering is much harder than average, but still not even close to track levels. My tires essentially don't wear at all on the street, all of the wear comes from track days. After 4 days at the track, they are effectively dry weather tires. I think I'll make it to the end of the track season (Sep), but I'll be very careful in the wet.

I'd post pictures of my tires, but I don't think I'm allowed.
Old Jul 10, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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You can probaby post them to an album, and either link to or copy/paste from there.

I don't expect anybody's DD cornering to approach track/auto-X levels. But for making that much camber work on an overall basis you do have to be cornering hard enough on a regular basis to generate noticeable roll (noticeable from the outside, anyway).


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