Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
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Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
Sorry if its old news to anyone, but I did not realize today that Shelby GT500's are not shipped to Shelby in Nevada for the conversion such as the Shelby GT's are.According to my dealer, the GT500's are built entirely at a Ford factory. I know for a fact that the Shelby GT's are converted by Shelby itself in Las Vegas, but I did not know this about the 500. (assuming its a fact). To me, this makes the Shelby GT much more interesting and desireable.
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RE: Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
ORIGINAL: ilmor
Sorry if its old news to anyone, but I did not realize today that Shelby GT500's are not shipped to Shelby in Nevada for the conversion such as the Shelby GT's are.According to my dealer, the GT500's are built entirely at a Ford factory. I know for a fact that the Shelby GT's are converted by Shelby itself in Las Vegas, but I did not know this about the 500. (assuming its a fact). To me, this makes the Shelby GT much more interesting and desireable.
Sorry if its old news to anyone, but I did not realize today that Shelby GT500's are not shipped to Shelby in Nevada for the conversion such as the Shelby GT's are.According to my dealer, the GT500's are built entirely at a Ford factory. I know for a fact that the Shelby GT's are converted by Shelby itself in Las Vegas, but I did not know this about the 500. (assuming its a fact). To me, this makes the Shelby GT much more interesting and desireable.
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RE: Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
The thing is(unfortunately), Shelby's company is just an outfitter(as the option is listed in the Ford spec sheets) company. Not like the old days, where all aspects of the original GT350 where very Shelby influenced, i.e. 9" diff with Galaxie brakes, torque arms( which required modifying the rear floor pan and eliminating the rear seat) Koni shocks, Shelby spec'd spring rates, high rise intake with specific Holley carb, Tri-Y headers with side exhausts, modified front suspension geometry, functional hood scoop(!). All Shelby does now is what any dealership can do. FFRP CAI/tuner install, FFRP suspension package and exhaust install, Hurst shifter, Billet grille overlay and stripes added.......not anything super special(other than the name).
Just look at old muscle car values, big inch cars are worth more than smaller engined ones. I think the GT500 will always be worth more just because of it's engine, if nothing else IMO
Just look at old muscle car values, big inch cars are worth more than smaller engined ones. I think the GT500 will always be worth more just because of it's engine, if nothing else IMO
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RE: Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
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The thing is(unfortunately), Shelby's company is just an outfitter(as the option is listed in the Ford spec sheets) company. Not like the old days, where all aspects of the original GT350 where very Shelby influenced, i.e. 9" diff with Galaxie brakes, torque arms( which required modifying the rear floor pan and eliminating the rear seat) Koni shocks, Shelby spec'd spring rates, high rise intake with specific Holley carb, Tri-Y headers with side exhausts, modified front suspension geometry, functional hood scoop(!). All Shelby does now is what any dealership can do. FFRP CAI/tuner install, FFRP suspension package and exhaust install, Hurst shifter, Billet grille overlay and stripes added.......not anything super special(other than the name).
Just look at old muscle car values, big inch cars are worth more than smaller engined ones. I think the GT500 will always be worth more just because of it's engine, if nothing else IMO
The thing is(unfortunately), Shelby's company is just an outfitter(as the option is listed in the Ford spec sheets) company. Not like the old days, where all aspects of the original GT350 where very Shelby influenced, i.e. 9" diff with Galaxie brakes, torque arms( which required modifying the rear floor pan and eliminating the rear seat) Koni shocks, Shelby spec'd spring rates, high rise intake with specific Holley carb, Tri-Y headers with side exhausts, modified front suspension geometry, functional hood scoop(!). All Shelby does now is what any dealership can do. FFRP CAI/tuner install, FFRP suspension package and exhaust install, Hurst shifter, Billet grille overlay and stripes added.......not anything super special(other than the name).
Just look at old muscle car values, big inch cars are worth more than smaller engined ones. I think the GT500 will always be worth more just because of it's engine, if nothing else IMO
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RE: Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
ORIGINAL: ilmor
Sorry if its old news to anyone, but I did not realize today that Shelby GT500's are not shipped to Shelby in Nevada for the conversion such as the Shelby GT's are.According to my dealer, the GT500's are built entirely at a Ford factory. I know for a fact that the Shelby GT's are converted by Shelby itself in Las Vegas, but I did not know this about the 500. (assuming its a fact). To me, this makes the Shelby GT much more interesting and desireable.
Sorry if its old news to anyone, but I did not realize today that Shelby GT500's are not shipped to Shelby in Nevada for the conversion such as the Shelby GT's are.According to my dealer, the GT500's are built entirely at a Ford factory. I know for a fact that the Shelby GT's are converted by Shelby itself in Las Vegas, but I did not know this about the 500. (assuming its a fact). To me, this makes the Shelby GT much more interesting and desireable.
TheMustang ShelbyGT is a GT Premium that is sent to Shelby in NV to have a host of FRPP parts and a few other goodies put on it. You get a dash plaque that is signed by him, too.
TheMustang ShelbyGT 500 is built by Fjord's SVT division at their AutoAlliance Internationalplant in Flat Rock, Michigan. It is a GT Premium with parts from FRPP and a few others.
As for what is worth more? Right now it appears to be the GT500. Who knows that the future will bring. Too bad they did not up the HP in the Shelby GT to at least 350HP. Would have been a nice spot for it, right between the GT and the Saleen/PJ and the other up coming N/A special edition Mustangs.
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RE: Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
I thing the GT500 will always be worth more simply because it costs more to begin with and is built in more limited numbers. I just think the fact that the GT is converted by Shelby in NV is meaningful, in other words, Shelby did not only endorse it but his plant also played a part in constructing it, even if it is just adding on standard Ford performance parts. I just think this is cool, personally. What the heck do I know anyway? Maybe I'm just partial to the Shelby GT at the moment because I sat in and started a Shelby GT in the dealer's showroom (yes - in the showroom) just this morning....AWESOME!!
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RE: Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
I, like most people could care less about the production numbers between the two. The fact is the GT500 is a supercar more or less. 500 HP, looks mean as hell and it has its history also. The shelby GT has about the same power as my GT does with just a CAI/tune. I spent 600-700 and now have something that has about the same and probably more HP than the Shelby GT and I did not pay 40k+ for it. As stated about, give the Shelby GT a bigger engine with more HP and then its alot different story. I honestly think that shelby probably didnt have that much to do with either car.
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RE: Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
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The only value for me in the GT500 was the 500HP on a motor that could take 700 to 900. I think people that buy the GT500 because of the resale value are goingin for a nasty surprise. The fact is my GT is quicker and handles better with the mods I have in it but it's not reliable.... My GT500 is really smooth and comfortable. I has the same leather feel thanmy 350 King ranch. I'm considering making it my daily driver.
The only value for me in the GT500 was the 500HP on a motor that could take 700 to 900. I think people that buy the GT500 because of the resale value are goingin for a nasty surprise. The fact is my GT is quicker and handles better with the mods I have in it but it's not reliable.... My GT500 is really smooth and comfortable. I has the same leather feel thanmy 350 King ranch. I'm considering making it my daily driver.
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I, like most people could care less about the production numbers between the two. The fact is the GT500 is a supercar more or less. 500 HP, looks mean as hell and it has its history also. The shelby GT has about the same power as my GT does with just a CAI/tune. I spent 600-700 and now have something that has about the same and probably more HP than the Shelby GT and I did not pay 40k+ for it. As stated about, give the Shelby GT a bigger engine with more HP and then its alot different story. I honestly think that shelby probably didnt have that much to do with either car.
I, like most people could care less about the production numbers between the two. The fact is the GT500 is a supercar more or less. 500 HP, looks mean as hell and it has its history also. The shelby GT has about the same power as my GT does with just a CAI/tune. I spent 600-700 and now have something that has about the same and probably more HP than the Shelby GT and I did not pay 40k+ for it. As stated about, give the Shelby GT a bigger engine with more HP and then its alot different story. I honestly think that shelby probably didnt have that much to do with either car.
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RE: Shelby GT and Shelby GT500
ORIGINAL: 05gtdriver
The thing is(unfortunately), Shelby's company is just an outfitter(as the option is listed in the Ford spec sheets) company. Not like the old days, where all aspects of the original GT350 where very Shelby influenced, i.e. 9" diff with Galaxie brakes, torque arms( which required modifying the rear floor pan and eliminating the rear seat) Koni shocks, Shelby spec'd spring rates, high rise intake with specific Holley carb, Tri-Y headers with side exhausts, modified front suspension geometry, functional hood scoop(!). All Shelby does now is what any dealership can do. FFRP CAI/tuner install, FFRP suspension package and exhaust install, Hurst shifter, Billet grille overlay and stripes added.......not anything super special(other than the name).
Just look at old muscle car values, big inch cars are worth more than smaller engined ones. I think the GT500 will always be worth more just because of it's engine, if nothing else IMO
The thing is(unfortunately), Shelby's company is just an outfitter(as the option is listed in the Ford spec sheets) company. Not like the old days, where all aspects of the original GT350 where very Shelby influenced, i.e. 9" diff with Galaxie brakes, torque arms( which required modifying the rear floor pan and eliminating the rear seat) Koni shocks, Shelby spec'd spring rates, high rise intake with specific Holley carb, Tri-Y headers with side exhausts, modified front suspension geometry, functional hood scoop(!). All Shelby does now is what any dealership can do. FFRP CAI/tuner install, FFRP suspension package and exhaust install, Hurst shifter, Billet grille overlay and stripes added.......not anything super special(other than the name).
Just look at old muscle car values, big inch cars are worth more than smaller engined ones. I think the GT500 will always be worth more just because of it's engine, if nothing else IMO
There will be some small premium in the stickers and badges down the road. Not nearly enough to justify even the MSRP ask today much less the ADP. If you are buying this car as an investment, good luck.
Too bad really, Shelby could have gone down the road more like the Saleen PJ instead and had something to be proud of vs. just living off the legend.I consider myself a Shelby lover and wish very much to see a return to the things that made the name great. Maybe next year.....
The GT500 is more a Shelby that the 'GT' will ever be - regardless of where it was built, who built it, or what its VIN number says. SVT had a frickin' vision! The Shelby GT OTOH is the quitesssential hype-mobile, priced accordingly, and proof of P.T. Barnum's adage.
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