shelby gt500's at sticker
#21
RE: shelby gt500's at sticker
Just came back from my dealer.
They had an 08 Hardtop GT500 for $47k sticker, after speaking with the salesman,
Dealer markup is $14k. He said they'll let it go for $8k over sticker.
Theives!
They are still sitting on their Shelby GT's ($37k)from MARCH, when I bought my used 06 V6 'vert from them.
They had an 08 Hardtop GT500 for $47k sticker, after speaking with the salesman,
Dealer markup is $14k. He said they'll let it go for $8k over sticker.
Theives!
They are still sitting on their Shelby GT's ($37k)from MARCH, when I bought my used 06 V6 'vert from them.
#22
RE: shelby gt500's at sticker
ORIGINAL: MadManMoon
Is that Waldorf Ford? I laughed at them when I saw their 2 '08 GT500s marked up $30K over. I asked the sales manager what he's been getting, and he said he got $72K for a red with white stripe '08 about a month ago. Given that they've moved quite a few since late-'06, I can only believe 1 of 2 things: either the sales manager is lying about what he's really getting (definitely possible) or there are idiots not willing to look around the country to find a better deal. If you can pay MSRP, even if it costs $3K to have it shipped in a covered trailer, it's STILL a huge savings from what the metro DC dealers are looking for!
BTW, Waldorf Ford is still trying to charge a $5K markup on their 2007 Shelby GTs that aren't sold. Oops!
ORIGINAL: bad1032
30,000.00 mark up at the dealers in southern maryland, he owns 6 dealers in the area.
30,000.00 mark up at the dealers in southern maryland, he owns 6 dealers in the area.
BTW, Waldorf Ford is still trying to charge a $5K markup on their 2007 Shelby GTs that aren't sold. Oops!
You guys can't fault the dealership for marking thesevehicles up. They should sell them for what they can get for them. Thats capitalism. You have to realize that this is one of the few places that these dealerships can make money. These specialty vehicles keep these dealerships afloat. Most of the Forddealerships I audit are operating at a loss.
#23
RE: shelby gt500's at sticker
Here's my beef with it. Ford produced a 500 hp car in which a middle class person could have purchased. Add 20k to it and only a person that doesn't mind wasting money could buy it. I would say that caters to the hi-end middle class to the wealthy. The majority of Ford's mustang lovers are middle class guys. Why would they allow a dealership to jack the price up that much? Add 20 more and you could have the ZOsick. What do you guys think of the regular Shelby GT's? I would have to say a poor attempt at trying to make a dollar on Shelby's name.
#24
RE: shelby gt500's at sticker
Again like I said, Ford has to protect its dealerships. Also how can Ford possibly explain to their stock holders that they are selling a car for 45k when in actuality they could get 80k(a year ago), 70k(8 months ago) or 55k now. Ford is losing billions every year and their dealerships are bleeding bad. How can an American possibly go against capitalism, which is what this. Supply and Demand.
Ford Produces XX,XXX GT500'sper year. They can sell all XX,XXX for say 60k. But they choose to sell them for 45K? Huh? Then you have a surplus of demand. So you could produce more, but that would be a huge fix cost commitment and if the demand subsides then they've screwed themselves. Plus pissed off every collector who were told by Ford thatit was a limited production specialty vehicle.
If you want to buy a GT500's for MSRP just wait, they will be there by mid '08, if you look hard and search dealers selling on ebay you can already pretty much get there.
Ford Produces XX,XXX GT500'sper year. They can sell all XX,XXX for say 60k. But they choose to sell them for 45K? Huh? Then you have a surplus of demand. So you could produce more, but that would be a huge fix cost commitment and if the demand subsides then they've screwed themselves. Plus pissed off every collector who were told by Ford thatit was a limited production specialty vehicle.
If you want to buy a GT500's for MSRP just wait, they will be there by mid '08, if you look hard and search dealers selling on ebay you can already pretty much get there.
#27
RE: shelby gt500's at sticker
The problem with your logic is that we are talking about dealer markups and Ford Motor Co. has nothing to do with them, nor do they or the stockholders see any of this money. There isn't anything to explain. If this were the case then Ford would increase the MSRP (which FordMoCo doesn't get this amount either).
What would help save Ford (and the stockholders would appreciate) is if the company sold more vehicles.
I do not have any numbers, but I would be interested to see what total revenue is generated in the long run using the actual amount paid (markups for early buyers and discounts for late buyers) compared to the amount if all were sold at MSRP.
What would help save Ford (and the stockholders would appreciate) is if the company sold more vehicles.
I do not have any numbers, but I would be interested to see what total revenue is generated in the long run using the actual amount paid (markups for early buyers and discounts for late buyers) compared to the amount if all were sold at MSRP.
ORIGINAL: 83gtragtop
Again like I said, Ford has to protect its dealerships. Also how can Ford possibly explain to their stock holders that they are selling a car for 45k when in actuality they could get 80k(a year ago), 70k(8 months ago) or 55k now. Ford is losing billions every year and their dealerships are bleeding bad. How can an American possibly go against capitalism, which is what this. Supply and Demand.
Ford Produces XX,XXX GT500'sper year. They can sell all XX,XXX for say 60k. But they choose to sell them for 45K? Huh? Then you have a surplus of demand. So you could produce more, but that would be a huge fix cost commitment and if the demand subsides then they've screwed themselves. Plus pissed off every collector who were told by Ford thatit was a limited production specialty vehicle.
If you want to buy a GT500's for MSRP just wait, they will be there by mid '08, if you look hard and search dealers selling on ebay you can already pretty much get there.
Again like I said, Ford has to protect its dealerships. Also how can Ford possibly explain to their stock holders that they are selling a car for 45k when in actuality they could get 80k(a year ago), 70k(8 months ago) or 55k now. Ford is losing billions every year and their dealerships are bleeding bad. How can an American possibly go against capitalism, which is what this. Supply and Demand.
Ford Produces XX,XXX GT500'sper year. They can sell all XX,XXX for say 60k. But they choose to sell them for 45K? Huh? Then you have a surplus of demand. So you could produce more, but that would be a huge fix cost commitment and if the demand subsides then they've screwed themselves. Plus pissed off every collector who were told by Ford thatit was a limited production specialty vehicle.
If you want to buy a GT500's for MSRP just wait, they will be there by mid '08, if you look hard and search dealers selling on ebay you can already pretty much get there.
#28
RE: shelby gt500's at sticker
ORIGINAL: Christovich
The problem with your logic is that we are talking about dealer markups and Ford Motor Co. has nothing to do with them, nor do they or the stockholders see any of this money. There isn't anything to explain. If this were the case then Ford would increase the MSRP (which FordMoCo doesn't get this amount either).
What would help save Ford (and the stockholders would appreciate) is if the company sold more vehicles.
I do not have any numbers, but I would be interested to see what total revenue is generated in the long run using the actual amount paid (markups for early buyers and discounts for late buyers) compared to the amount if all were sold at MSRP.
The problem with your logic is that we are talking about dealer markups and Ford Motor Co. has nothing to do with them, nor do they or the stockholders see any of this money. There isn't anything to explain. If this were the case then Ford would increase the MSRP (which FordMoCo doesn't get this amount either).
What would help save Ford (and the stockholders would appreciate) is if the company sold more vehicles.
I do not have any numbers, but I would be interested to see what total revenue is generated in the long run using the actual amount paid (markups for early buyers and discounts for late buyers) compared to the amount if all were sold at MSRP.
ORIGINAL: 83gtragtop
Again like I said, Ford has to protect its dealerships. Also how can Ford possibly explain to their stock holders that they are selling a car for 45k when in actuality they could get 80k(a year ago), 70k(8 months ago) or 55k now. Ford is losing billions every year and their dealerships are bleeding bad. How can an American possibly go against capitalism, which is what this. Supply and Demand.
Ford Produces XX,XXX GT500'sper year. They can sell all XX,XXX for say 60k. But they choose to sell them for 45K? Huh? Then you have a surplus of demand. So you could produce more, but that would be a huge fix cost commitment and if the demand subsides then they've screwed themselves. Plus pissed off every collector who were told by Ford thatit was a limited production specialty vehicle.
If you want to buy a GT500's for MSRP just wait, they will be there by mid '08, if you look hard and search dealers selling on ebay you can already pretty much get there.
Again like I said, Ford has to protect its dealerships. Also how can Ford possibly explain to their stock holders that they are selling a car for 45k when in actuality they could get 80k(a year ago), 70k(8 months ago) or 55k now. Ford is losing billions every year and their dealerships are bleeding bad. How can an American possibly go against capitalism, which is what this. Supply and Demand.
Ford Produces XX,XXX GT500'sper year. They can sell all XX,XXX for say 60k. But they choose to sell them for 45K? Huh? Then you have a surplus of demand. So you could produce more, but that would be a huge fix cost commitment and if the demand subsides then they've screwed themselves. Plus pissed off every collector who were told by Ford thatit was a limited production specialty vehicle.
If you want to buy a GT500's for MSRP just wait, they will be there by mid '08, if you look hard and search dealers selling on ebay you can already pretty much get there.
Also obviously the better the dealers do, the more revenue they generate, the bigger the inventory they stock. Because dealers have been struggling, Ford has had to lower the invoice prices on vehicles to widen the dealers profit margin. Ford has to help their dealers because they can not afford to lose key markets, which is what happens when a dealer shuts down.
#29
RE: shelby gt500's at sticker
83gt,
Thank you for explaining that. I was under the impression that all dealers were independent of Ford. Do you know what percentage of dealerships are partially owned by Ford?
I would still be interested in seeing a revenue breakdown based on markups/discounts and retail.
Thank you for explaining that. I was under the impression that all dealers were independent of Ford. Do you know what percentage of dealerships are partially owned by Ford?
I would still be interested in seeing a revenue breakdown based on markups/discounts and retail.
#30
RE: shelby gt500's at sticker
ORIGINAL: marlon1
too much invested in mine to trade anyway, have 3 grand worth of parts in garage now
just waiting for rest to come in
too much invested in mine to trade anyway, have 3 grand worth of parts in garage now
just waiting for rest to come in