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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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ls1 should rape the evo.
For teh win! cause two low 13 second cars are no match for each other!
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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drag radials=dig prpblem solved
drag radials + stock LS1 rear end = tow ride home...
Thats an exaggeration. The rear end can handle the stock power of the almighty LS1.
From what I hear from everybody at LS1tech, it surely cannot...
Mines been doing fine on a BGF dr. No I don't think it will live forever but I have been pulling 1.8 60 foots and I have a 6 speed which is way harder on the rear than an auto.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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ls1 is god remember?

no but in all seriousness why does everybody think the ls1 camaros make so much power and its so hard to make a mustang just as fast? Doesnt the ss make 325 HP and the z28 make 310? what are the 1/4 mile times of the ls1 camaro's?
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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almost an entire second faster than a stock 99-04 GT auto.... about .5 faster than a manual
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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ls1 is god remember?

no but in all seriousness why does everybody think the ls1 camaros make so much power and its so hard to make a mustang just as fast? Doesnt the ss make 325 HP and the z28 make 310? what are the 1/4 mile times of the ls1 camaro's?
Those are just ratings, and from past stock dyno sheets, SS's and Z28s making 300 rwhp sings a different tune to manufacturers ratings.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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ls1 is god remember?

no but in all seriousness why does everybody think the ls1 camaros make so much power and its so hard to make a mustang just as fast? Doesnt the ss make 325 HP and the z28 make 310? what are the 1/4 mile times of the ls1 camaro's?
LS1s are underrated and put down about 290 at the wheels on average. They also take WAY better to mods than these 2V Mustangs. A stock PI GT makes about 220RWHP, 70 less than the LS1 not to mention to torque disadvantage. LS1s run low to mid 13s consistently with the occasional 12.9. That puts the LS1 a full second faster than the PI GTs. In order for a PI GT to run low 13s you will probably need full boltons and a cam + gears (if you want to do it on stock tires).

Okay so just full bolt ons and a cam? Well consider a cam + full exhaust in an LS1 will put you pretty damn close to 400RWHP. Something that can't be done by a 2v N/A...
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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OK, here's the LS1 lowdown:
All varieties of LS1's, whether they be Z28's, Super Sports, Trans Ams, Firebird Formulas, or even Corvettes, put down right around 300 rwhp in stock form, give or take a few. The 01-04 cars may dyno sliiightly higher due to an improved intake manifold. Assuming 12% drivetrain loss for a 6-speed manual, this equates to about 340 hp at the flywheel. GM horsepower ratings don't really mean a lot, they are written more by marketing executives than engineers. WS6's, Super Sports, and Vettes cost more so they were given more advertised horsepower. It really is the same engine. Honest.
The differences in 1/4 mile ETs among different LS1 F-bodies are really due to transmission and gearing choices. You can have a 6-speed manual with 3.42 gears, an auto with 3.23 gears, or the lowly 2.73-geared auto (like mine). Depending on weather and track conditions and drivers, stock 6-speeds will run between 12.9 (happens more often than you think) and 13.3, autos will run between 13.2 and 13.6. As for personal experience, mine ran 13.52 @ 104, my g/f had a 2.73-geared auto that ran 13.36 @ 105.
Can I put this in my signature? It would save me a lot of typing.

EDIT: I posted this before I saw Mustangmafia's post.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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OK, here's the LS1 lowdown:
All varieties of LS1's, whether they be Z28's, Super Sports, Trans Ams, Firebird Formulas, or even Corvettes, put down right around 300 rwhp in stock form, give or take a few. The 01-04 cars may dyno sliiightly higher due to an improved intake manifold. Assuming 12% drivetrain loss for a 6-speed manual, this equates to about 340 hp at the flywheel. GM horsepower ratings don't really mean a lot, they are written more by marketing executives than engineers. WS6's, Super Sports, and Vettes cost more so they were given more advertised horsepower. It really is the same engine. Honest.
The differences in 1/4 mile ETs among different LS1 F-bodies are really due to transmission and gearing choices. You can have a 6-speed manual with 3.42 gears, an auto with 3.23 gears, or the lowly 2.73-geared auto (like mine). Depending on weather and track conditions and drivers, stock 6-speeds will run between 12.9 (happens more often than you think) and 13.3, autos will run between 13.2 and 13.6. As for personal experience, mine ran 13.52 @ 104, my g/f had a 2.73-geared auto that ran 13.36 @ 105.
Can I put this in my signature? It would save me a lot of typing.

EDIT: I posted this before I saw Mustangmafia's post.
so an ls1 c5 corvette rated at 350hp acutally has the same power as a ls1 z28 or transam?
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Mines been doing fine on a BGF dr. No I don't think it will live forever but I have been pulling 1.8 60 foots and I have a 6 speed which is way harder on the rear than an auto.
Yea, you're right. I went thousands of 1.7 short times and the occasional 1.6 short time on the stock suspension/stock rearend and 555r's. I had the manual in for about a month and blew the rearend up....on the street.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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so an ls1 c5 corvette rated at 350hp acutally has the same power as a ls1 z28 or transam?
Actually, some Vette's dyno lower than the f-body due to the IRS.



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