I Have a firend with a 1991 talon tsi awd going up against this kid with a 1995 cobra. The 1991 talon tsi has 300awhp and the 1995 cobra has 4.30 gears, an o/r h-pipe, and a holly systemax kit. The race was supposed to happen last nite but the kid with the cobra postponed it untill tomarrow because he is putting on the systemax kit. So the race is now tomarrow nite. I was wondering who you think will win, the talon or the cobra. Both are good drives but the guy with the talon is a better driver. At first i thought the cobra is going to walk the talon since he is puttin the systemax kit on his cobra but taking his gear into consideration they are really steep so he would be shifting like crazy..I know that before the systemax kit the talon would have walked away from the cobra by an easy 6 cars but now i got no idea. What do you all think..??

 

I think your buddy needs to put some 3.73's or 3.55's back in his Cobra. I think he's going to spin his tires a lot. Power levels I'd guess would be similar, HP wise, not sure on torque. but the talon has awd so he'll get the launch bigtime.

 

My guess is the Talon will win. If he is just getting new heads and cam in there, its gonna have some teething problems and not be sorted out. Its not a bolt on deal it takes a bit of effort to swap an entire top end and get it runnin again, well runnin right anyway. I agree the 4.30's are way too much, where does he live? In the South where they spray it and run so much gear it has a top speed of 100 mph at 8500 rpm?

 

how's it goin guys? I have the talon. It's probably around 300whp or so on pumpgas. I just wanted to ask what the systemax kit is, because i know dick about mustangs. lemme know what you think my chances are? yes, the car is AWD, and i can launch it like no tomorrow, so I know i'll hook. i wanna hear input. thanks.

 

I think the talon will jump pretty well off the line but eventually the cobra will come get him on top...depends on how far/fast they get up to really.

0-60 and 1/4 mile I think the Talon will get him, anything higher than 100 mph and the Cobra will make a comeback. From a roll though I think it'll be way way more even, if not worse for the TSi.

That's just a GUESS because of the AWD on the TSi... AWD=launch happy.

 

well the holley system max is a set of parts from Holley is makes 350 HP on a stock 5.0 . Should be good for at least 300 rwhp on the cobra . He wont make that much power if he doesnt have the bigger TB and MM and injectors to go with the setup. Well the Talon is lighter and should win but the TQ from the stang might help later on in the revs if he can drive . I think it should be close at the end of the 1/4 but who knows if i had money on it and all facts were in i say Talon. But does your car really have 300 awhp? Have you did a dyno? Or are you guessing?

 

if there is 300awhp in the talon he should win easy. i dont have near that and we know my story.

 

so, what would 300whp do for a cobra in the 1/4 mile? i know that this relies heavily on whether or not he has gears, and i believe it was mentioned before that he has 4.30s. The car has not been on a dyno since some work has been done, and it made 240 at the wheels then. Ran 13.3@99mph letting off, was trapping 105 the rest of the day. Now i'd ESTIMATE it has an easy 60whp more than it did before, but I do not have access to a dyno any more, so I cannot readily confirm this. With racegas and the boost bumped a couple psi, I am in expectation of mid 12 second timeslips. Thanks for your response. As far as driving, I cut 1.6 60' times, and have no problem shifting. Your input is appreciated.
-Doug

 

What are the mods on the talon? I have seen plently of talon vids with new turbos etc running only door to door (not pulling) on guys running not much faster than 14s.

Are you estimating 300 HP at the wheels, or are you pretty sure? A 300 horse talon should be really dammed quick, as light as it is with AWD.

 

i'm very confident of the whp i claim, but i don't have any proof of it in dyno sheet form. my mods are as follows (taken from another site, hence the irrelevent information) and I've included a few pictures as well.

Mod List:
Intake/Turbo:
K&N fipk
2g mas
3" hardpipe
16g ported/clipped turbo
ported 2g manifold
PTR 2.25” intercooler piping
buschur upper i/c pipe
EVO 8 frontmount
2g throttle body elbow
HKS SSQV Blow off Valve
Exhaust:
TiAl 38mm HP wastegate
Ported 1g o2 housing
2.5" mandrel bent dp
2.5" testpipe
3" thermal catback
Air/Fuel:
550cc injectors
hallman mbc (usually around 18psi)
apexi s-afc
walbro 255 lph fuel pump
rewired pump
Spoolinup fpr
Driveline:
act 2600 clutch
welded center diff
rebuilt tranny
RRE SS Clutch line
Symbroski shift bushings
Extended slave cylinder arm
Shimmed clutch release fork pivot ball
Suspension:
kyb agx shocks
eibach sportline springs
93 gsx rims, polished
yokohama AVS es100 tires
Taboo rear camber kit

Misc.
apexi turbo timer
autometer gauges
2g leather shift ****
clear corners
hyperwhite bulbs
blue interior lighting
Perma-Cool 12” slimline fan
Custom “Too Low For A Fat Ho” stickers on ¼ panel windows
Completely debadged
Black to silver fade sticker removed
Removed A/C

Stereo:
kenwood headunit
monster cable 4 ga. Power/ground wire
stinger 12 ga. Speaker wire
stinger 16 ga. Remote wire
stinger shielded RCA cables
ppi pc 650 amp for highs and mids
jensen 300 watt amp for sub ( i know, i know)
alpine type s 10" sub
small sealed box




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