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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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what do stock 5.0's run in the quarter?
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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Don't know why so many people want to race my 5.0. When I had my 01GT nobody wanted to race. Do people know that the 5.0 isnt really that fast or because it was considered fast back in the day so people want to prove something.
yeah they seem to have a cult status everywhere, but most people are just trying to prove something, but in the case with heavily modded tuners, they are just picking on them.

Dwisforme05:
I believe Foxes werehigh 14 to low 15 sec cars "stockish" but some one correct me if i'm wrong
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Yea, Ill admit it makes it worse losing against a girl. But, the what realy gets me is picturing this girl going "oh hey, a 5.0 tried to race me and I won, heh, heh. The shift point you mentioned seems good for me even though yers isnt the 87-93. I forget if my 5.0 has power in low rpm or high rpm, I had a 01Gt and I think its power was in the high RPM's.

if my knowledge is correct you are stating opposites.... I think the 5.0L's made power in the higher RPM's along with the DOHC mod motors while the SOHC mod motors were all about low end power

I'm just getting around to giving tech advice here and there so take it with a grain of salt
Stock 5.0's made peak power at about 47-4800 rpm. Above that the stock valve springs let the valves float.
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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was she hot?
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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For those of you wondering where each respective car is making its peak power, all you have to do is look at the horsepower and torque numbers.

A car with a high torque rating and a (comparitively) low horse power rating will make its power down lower, whereas cars that have higher horse ratings, but lower torque ratings (such as a civic) are going to be the cars that rev to the moon to get their power.

You have to remember that horsepower is a rating based off of torque production at a certain RPM. horsepower = (torque x rpm)/5252
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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The models for the Eclipse are as follows.

1st Gen.

[ul][*]Eclipse: Base FWD model equipped with a 92hp naturally-aspirated engine 1.8L 8-valve SOHC 4G37 engine[*]Eclipse GS: Upgraded FWD model with slightly more equipment[*]Eclipse GS DOHC: Upgraded FWD model equipped with a 136hp naturally-aspirated 2.0L 16-valve DOHC 4G63 non-turbo engine**[*]Eclipse GS-T: Top FWD model equipped with a 180-195hp* turbocharged 2.0L 16-valve DOHC 4G63T engine[*]Eclipse GSX: AWD model equipped with a 180-195hp* turbocharged 2.0L 16-valve DOHC 4G63T engine [/ul]
2nd Gen

[ul][*]Eclipse: Base FWD model equipped with a 140hp 2.0L 16-valve DOHC Chrysler 420A engine[*]Eclipse RS: Equipment Upgraded FWD model equipped with a 140hp 2.0L 16-valve DOHC Chrysler 420A engine[*]Eclipse GS: Equipment upgraded FWD model equipped with a 140hp 2.0L 16-valve DOHC Chrysler 420A engine[*]Eclipse GS Spyder: Convertible FWD model equipped with a 141hp 2.4L 16-valve SOHC Mitsubishi 4G64 engine[*]Eclipse GS-T: Hardtop FWD model equipped with a 210hp turbocharged 2.0L 16-valve DOHC Mitsubishi 4G63 engine[*]Eclipse GS-T Spyder: Convertible FWD model equipped with a 210hp turbocharged 2.0L 16-valve DOHC Mitsubishi 4G63 engine[*]Eclipse GSX: AWD model equipped with a 210hp turbocharged 2.0L 16-valve DOHC Mitsubishi 4G63 engine [/ul]
3rd Gen.

[ul][*]Eclipse RS & GS: Base model equipped with a 150hp 2.4L 16-valve SOHC Mitsubishi 4G64 engine [/ul]
[ul][*]Eclipse GS Spyder: Convertible FWD model equipped with a 150hp 2.4L 16-valve SOHC Mitsubishi 4G64 engine [/ul]
[ul][*]Eclipse GT: Hardtop FWD model equipped with a 200 hp (205hp federal spec 2000-2001 only) 3.0L 24-valve SOHC Mitsubishi 6G72 engine [/ul]
[ul][*]Eclipse GT Spyder: convertible FWD model equipped with a 200 hp (205hp federal spec 2000-2001 only) 3.0L 24-valve SOHC Mitsubishi 6G72 engine [/ul]
[ul][*]Eclipse GTS: Hardtop FWD model equipped with a 210hp 3.0L 24-valve SOHC Mitsubishi 6G72 engine with Mitsubishi Variable Induction Management (MVIM) [/ul]
[ul][*]Eclipse GTS Spyder: convertible FWD model equipped with a 210hp 3.0L 24-valve SOHC Mitsubishi 6G72 engine with MVIM[/ul]
4th Gen.

[ul][*]Eclipse GS: Base FWD model equipped with a 162hp 2.4L 16-valve [URL=http://en.wikipedia.or
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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It easy to make eclipses fast, don't feel bad.
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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It easy to make eclipses fast, don't feel bad.
LOL dont listen to this guy! Feel bad. It's easy to make a fox fast! Time to dig into your piggy bank and get working.
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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It easy to make eclipses fast, don't feel bad.
i understand this to some extent but aren't the parts expensive? my friend built a talon from the ground up for the 1/4 and he spent like 10 to 15k just getting thedrivetrainall figured out and then he rebuilt the engine and got bigger turbos and everything. I mean with the drivetrain it was because it was AWD but still. with a Fox you better be fast if you've thrown 10 to 15k in it, period
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Well, I meant it was easy to make it fast, relative to a stock 5.0. Exhaust and intake give it 30 whp. On a stock setup, a boost controller can be used to up the boost to roughly 16-17 psi, which is about +50 whp. So, about 1k for over 300 hp.

Making them really fast is another story. Yes, that gets expensive. It's not hard at all to drop over 10k into them. Drivetrain can be expensive. Awd tranny is about 2k, front axles about 700. 1g rear-ends are weak, but people usually buy 2g rear-ends pretty cheap, which will get them well into the 10's. My friend has a 1g awd talon and ran mid 11's on stock drive-train (2g rear-end), spraying 125 shot off the line. He had to upgrade his tranny to get into the 10's though.



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