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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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That's kind of a two sided deal for Ford though. One the one hand, Aston Martin/Land Rover represented to them debt they could get rid of, though to tell you the truth, it was the only luxury brand ford had that was selling even moderately well. Aston Martin and Land Rover were selling more cars than Jaguar was for a while there, though they DID cost more to operate as a business unit than Jaguar did. On the other hand, they'll probably wish they hadn't when the new Vanquish RS debuts on the track next year and starts challenging the Ford GT. I'm not sure if the Vanquish would even be in the same cup class as the FR500, but I'd be willing to bet the RS would hand it it's *** on the track.

I think Ford's new management does indeed have something coming down the pike, though I hope they don't chicken out and neuter it before-hand like they tried to do to the stang the last time a big energy crisis came down the pike in the late 70's and early 80's. I'd have to agree with Rebel in that if they don't get off their butts soon they're going to loose the performance war in a way that'll take them 20 years and cost them millions if not billions in lost revenue to recover from.

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I think Ford's new management does indeed have something coming down the pike, though I hope they don't chicken out and neuter it before-hand like they tried to do to the stang the last time a big energy crisis came down the pike in the late 70's and early 80's. I'd have to agree with Rebel in that if they don't get off their butts soon they're going to loose the performance war in a way that'll take them 20 years and cost them millions if not billions in lost revenue to recover from.

Performance war as in Jaguar cars and Ford GT performance cars right?

If you mean the mustang vs camaro/firebird power war, it's never gonna happen. Ford purposely makes the V6 and GT mustang cheaper than the V6/Z28/Trans Am in their respective categories for sales, but the mustang top model(SVT Cobra,GT500, or whatever comes next)will always be the competitor of the top models(f-bodies, but I don't think there gonna be called that anymore) and beat them.TheGT500/Cobra/Cobra R/SVTCobra/XXXXwill evenpossibly be a base model vette competitor. That's how it's been the past 15-20yrs about and that's how it will be in the future.
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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steel stang hit the nail on th ehead
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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It sounds like it will fly but I don't consider new Caddys to be boats.
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 04:41 AM
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I think Ford's new management does indeed have something coming down the pike, though I hope they don't chicken out and neuter it before-hand like they tried to do to the stang the last time a big energy crisis came down the pike in the late 70's and early 80's. I'd have to agree with Rebel in that if they don't get off their butts soon they're going to loose the performance war in a way that'll take them 20 years and cost them millions if not billions in lost revenue to recover from.

Performance war as in Jaguar cars and Ford GT performance cars right?

If you mean the mustang vs camaro/firebird power war, it's never gonna happen. Ford purposely makes the V6 and GT mustang cheaper than the V6/Z28/Trans Am in their respective categories for sales, but the mustang top model(SVT Cobra,GT500, or whatever comes next)will always be the competitor of the top models(f-bodies, but I don't think there gonna be called that anymore) and beat them.TheGT500/Cobra/Cobra R/SVTCobra/XXXXwill evenpossibly be a base model vette competitor. That's how it's been the past 15-20yrs about and that's how it will be in the future.
I hate to admit it, but you're probably right about the ford vs GM piece, at least as far as the mustang models go. Though, in a way I was more referring to luxury models like the Caddy and such. You're right in that Ford purposely makes the sixers and GT's underpowered and less expensive than the maros etc, for sales reasons. But as GM makes more and more high performance models, that really aren't priced all THAT much more than the new 09 and 2010 stangs are, it's all going to be a looks war for the most part. Because people that buy cars based on power and performance will start crossing over to GM like they're doing right now. The people that still buy Ford, do so because they're ford enthusiasts, not because Ford's cars perform better. And dollar for dollar, the GT500/Cobra's etc, won't be all that much different in price than the base model vette's will be I'd wager, maybe a few thousand less. I suppose that's just big business and how it's done. Though the more ford is out-done performance wise, the more customers they're going to lose, even if it's only among those people that are "on the fence" so to speak.. That's just me though..
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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^^ lol.. Tell us something we didn't know.. :-p lol Though, you know, they DO make medicine for that brudda..
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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i like my FFD (ford fanboy disease)
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Eeeehhhh.. I'll take my Speed Freak Disease over your FFD any day of the week.. I eat horsepower, **** torque and **** 110 octane.. hehe..

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