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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MJH78
Why didn't he just call the police in the first place instead of calling you? 911. I just got hit, here's the description of the car, he's heading this direction. I don't care how fast your car is, the police are 10 times more effective than you can be. Power in numbers.
He did call the police first. Didn't have a plate and just the color of the car as it went past beyond that all he had was taillights. I'm also not in the middle of a big city out here. Nearest officer was 20 minutes out when the event happened and we still had a 10 minute wait for the officer once we got the car stopped and relayed the current location.

To be honest the kid would have lost him in a pretty short period of time if they had kept going... and then all he would have his a banged up truck. The police can't do anything if you don't have a plate and don't know who hit you.

Also the officer we got was the ONLY officer we could get. The next closest was 30 minutes out on a shots fired call with 2 other units.

If we had been somewhere with an on duty local police officer it would have played out much differently.
Old Nov 3, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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one day people will figure out the police are not some unstoppable force? in actuality most places have less than a 35% catch rate of runners (from mouth a police officer)
Old Nov 3, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by neo8222
one day people will figure out the police are not some unstoppable force? in actuality most places have less than a 35% catch rate of runners (from mouth a police officer)
Yeah I agree 100% with letting them do their jobs but I've been screwed over and several people I know have been screwed over because they did nothing and once the incident was over there was no way to prove or figure out who did it. As I said if I felt the police could have caught the guy without me being involved it would have played out like that. In the location we were at it was this or nothing.
Old Nov 3, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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yeah ive had many personal experiences with the police force failing, the worst so far are the times when people broke in and stole near a grand of my stuff. the only guy that got caught cause i caught him and did the cops job for them. called them back and did it all. both times with 2 different forces they just did there paper work. no prints, no looking, no interviewing, nothing. i know the other guy that did it and the cops still couldn't figure it out. *deeeeeeeepp breath* ok rant over
Old Nov 3, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z
Long story short... I'm sitting at home and get a call...my buddy (who is paramedic/ff where we are as well as another city) calls me and says I just got hit, they spun me into a ditch and they are running. I grabbed my keys, walkie and handsfree for the old Iphone and rush to the car. They are few miles out of town and his 04 Silverado (5.3L) isn't keeping up with the car (99 Cadillac Deville 4.6L Northstar - rated 300hp/295trq)... he calls out his location just as I am heading out of town at a pretty decent clip and I get on the road he is on. The car he is chasing comes at me headon and I try to block the road by sitting at the stopsign they are approaching... they squeeze past me blowing the stop sign and I pop in reverse, do a three point turn and begin chase, my buddy is about a mile behind them at this point and losing ground pretty bad. The intersection is forked and my buddy heads off to the right onto the highway and hauls along to catch up and I follow the car up the other road which is a residentual 30mph zone. They have a little distance on me after I had to back up and get turned around but I waste no time hauling up on them and grabbing their plate number and easing off again. As soon as they realized there was no way they could get away the car slows down and starts driving like nothing happened, stopping at stop signs, accelerating slow, etc. I'm still on the phone with my buddy who comes up an intersecting road and pulls in front of them as they are sitting at a stop sign and I close the rear boxing them in. I hang up and call dispatch, get them the tag and location so they can send us an officer.

While we are waiting for an officer three of the passengers hop out and bail on the kid and I advise him to shutoff his vehicle since he has a fuel 'spray' going on and within seconds there was a large spot where the gasoline was soaking the pavement. My buddy is hot but I keep talking to him trying to calm him down and tell the kid to just sit there and not add any fuel to the fire.

In the mean time one of the passengers returns with his mom and he starts running his mouth trying to get something going. I advised the mom to either ask him to leave or tell him to shut up or he would end up with some charges once the officer arrived. There is nothing I can do about him screaming at me but you do that in front of a deputy and see how much of it he tolerates. She made him leave and stayed on his behalf to speak to the officer. Just as the officer is pulling up a neighbor comes walking out and fires off about 6 questions at me. I basically inform him that I can't answer those questions, it doesn't concern him and he should just head back inside. He starts to act a bit funny but when the officer steps out of his car the guy walks away.

After my buddy gives his statement the officer talks to the kid and everything is on it's way. Kid is getting a ticket or two, accident report, yada yada... hit and run wasn't pressed so the kids getting off easy. While all of this is finally getting sorted out the neighbor starts running his mouth. Not sure what he was saying at first but I heard 'just shut up and go home, this isn't any of your business' and then the neighbor starts going off about how firefighters do whatever we want and we have no regard for anyone and we think the world belongs to us. Not sure what the guys deal is but definately has an ax to grind. The officer tells the guy to go back to his house and the guy keeps yelling. As the officer walks around the car towards him the old guy takes off so the officer turns and walks to his cruiser to do some paperwork. As soon as the officers back was to the old guy we hear more yelling from him and the officer turns (this time a bit rattled) and goes back over. After a few friendly 'I can arrest you' threats the guy finally goes inside his house (not before he called a few of us ******** and some other choice words).

Shortly after the officer dismissed us and he went to speak with the kid and serve him his paperwork. Good times.
More like short story long... lol

That old guy sounded like a ****ing douche bag.
Old Nov 3, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by acarzt
More like short story long... lol
ahaha...well it was shorter last night I swear. LOL

That old guy sounded like a ****ing douche bag.
Yeah... got a call from my chief an hour ago... he tried to call and complain first thing this morning.
Old Nov 3, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z
The police can't do anything if you don't have a plate and don't know who hit you.
Well I better understand the situation and why you did it, but you don't have to have a plate # for the police to do something...make, model, and color of car is usually what a cop is looking for. A cop isn't going around saying, ok keep an eye out for plate # RTC766. They are saying, keep an eye out for a late model blue chevy S10 pickup, or whatever it might be, last seen X, headed X direction.
Old Nov 3, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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That's a crazy story! I dont know I'd rush to a buddies aid over somethink like that but glad it worked out for everyone. Does sound pretty exciting though.
Old Nov 3, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MJH78
Well I better understand the situation and why you did it, but you don't have to have a plate # for the police to do something...make, model, and color of car is usually what a cop is looking for. A cop isn't going around saying, ok keep an eye out for plate # RTC766. They are saying, keep an eye out for a late model blue chevy S10 pickup, or whatever it might be, last seen X, headed X direction.
Yeah...out here there is no 'keep an eye out for'.. once they are gone they are gone. We border the county line and there is easily 30 miles of area where you can roam without even the chance of bumping into a squad car. I know what you are saying though... in a city enviroment it would have worked out just like that. Where we are that car would have dissapeared and never been found. At that point it would have been just another 'x' color car in the united states.
Old Nov 3, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt
That's a crazy story! I dont know I'd rush to a buddies aid over somethink like that but glad it worked out for everyone. Does sound pretty exciting though.

...yeah, your car is too much of a turd to keep up with that.

Nice one' S8ER.



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