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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:01 AM
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I have a 2000 GT convert. I want to get that stance. I have new 18x9/10 wheels installed. If I install the H&R sport springs do I need to also install caster camber plates?

Thanks for any advise.
Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:32 AM
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No... you do not have to install CC plates, but offers some advantages. I thought H&R had some "Sport" springs, but only see the Super Sports. The SS springs are quite an aggressive drop and CC plates are a good idea. If you are looking to get OEM alignment specs, or close to them, you will need the plates with SS springs.

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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 08:57 AM
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Advertised 2" rear and 1.5" front.
Old Jun 27, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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I got those exact same springs back in the day, after I put them in I didn't need any alinment. But yours could be different
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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You don't "need" cc-plates, but in addition to giving you more adjustability, they eliminate the huge soft rubber bushings on the factory strut mounts, which improves handling and steering response. They're worth the money for that reason alone.

http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-s...plates-94.html
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by techno
I have a 2000 GT convert. I want to get that stance. I have new 18x9/10 wheels installed. If I install the H&R sport springs do I need to also install caster camber plates?

Thanks for any advise.
Even tho I have heard that the CC plates are only needed when dropping more than 1-1/2", when I installed the FRPP springs with 1-1/4" drop on my '97, I could not get my alignment back to factory specs, not even close. I would have torn up my new tires rather quickly, unacceptable.

It makes sense really, the OEM setup has enough adjustment range to be able to compensate for variances in the body-in-white assembly. So some cars will have more than enough range remaining to tolerate a drop and some cars will not. As it stood, my Camber was already at the limits of it's adjustment range before the spring swap.

Some guys pay for alignments and fail to get factory specs due to mods like these. Then what are your choices?
Most shops will not refund the cost of the alignment if they can't get factory specs due to mods, so you are out about $150, and you got nothing for it.

Then you pay $200 for CC plates (install yourself or pay $150-200) and have it aligned AGAIN. So you are out another $350-550.
Luckily for me, I was able to adjust my factory plates to their limits and with my rudimentary tools, make the call to do the CC plates and not waste the $150 on a failed alignment.

Maybe this just applies to SN95s? Maybe your New Edge is better, maybe get some info from New Edge owners with mods & alignment issues.

I used the MM CC plates and are VERY happy with the design and quality of the parts. I am a retired Engineer & I am picky when it comes to parts. The quality of the materials, design & finishes all get critiqued, so few parts "make me happy", but these do.

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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Mustanger

Some guys pay for alignments and fail to get factory specs due to mods like these. Then what are your choices?
Most shops will not refund the cost of the alignment if they can't get factory specs due to mods, so you are out about $150, and you got nothing for it.

Then you pay $200 for CC plates (install yourself or pay $150-200) and have it aligned AGAIN. So you are out another $350-550.
Luckily for me, I was able to adjust my factory plates to their limits and with my rudimentary tools, make the call to do the CC plates and not waste the $150 on a failed alignment.

Maybe this just applies to SN95s? Maybe your New Edge is better, maybe get some info from New Edge owners with mods & alignment issues.

I used the MM CC plates and are VERY happy with the design and quality of the parts.
I paid $80 for a 4 wheel alignment 3 months ago. I also had UPR Shark c/c plates on my 01 and they were a good set, I paid $120 for them. I'm going to put UPR or Steeda on my 03 now.

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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 1slow67
I paid $80 for a 4 wheel alignment 3 months ago. I also had UPR Shark c/c plates on my 01 and they were a good set, I paid $120 for them. I'm going to put UPR or Steeda on my 03 now.
Your alignment is a lot cheaper than you can get around here!

How much of a drop did you go with?
Old Jun 29, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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I only went with a 1.5" drop using SVE springs. This time I am going to cut a set of spare stock springs. Hoping to get 1.5-2" with them.

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