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Old 08-09-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

Love the forums. Tons of info. But, I couldn't find much related to my specific question with the search function.

I've got a 2004 Mystichrome with the following power upgrades:

Whipple (tuned to 13psi)
K&N Air Filter
Bassani X Pipe
Borla Cat Back Exhaust

On a dynojet, my car put out 545.50rwhp / 481.93 ft-lbs torque. I was expecting to see ~ 500rwhp. A few members on here noted that my torque was low and that I should get it checked. Others have said this is typical of some aftermarket superchargers at low psi. I know running @ 13 psi is kind of pointless with a Whipple since you can port an Eaton and get 14 psi +-. But, I just want to stay safe right now. (I've only had the car for 4 days). I've read that 600rwhp is the magical number to avoid, unless you want to chance damaging heads and rods, etc. So, I'm not sure I want to retune to a higher psi yet.

So opinions: torque problem that needs to be investigated, or just typical of a whipple @ 13psi?


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Old 08-09-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default RE: 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

Not sure about what to expect... but on a stock eaton with 14psi, I had 480lb ft tor... That number just doesn't sound right to me... more displaced blower + more efficiency = same torque?
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default RE: 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

i though the cobra could handle 600 horses easily with out damaging anything?
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default RE: 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

They can... they get a bit iffy over 700rwhp, and dangerzone is above 800rwhp, but ive seen Cobras do 900rwhp on the stock block... he did it for a few weeks until his built shortblock came in... and i know a couple with mid 800s on the stock block... but there have also been a lot blown at that number too...
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default RE: 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

my car made 525rwhp and 498rwtq on a mustang dyno at 13psi with the whipple. want more torque than get a lower pulley. You can add mild boost without a retune.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default RE: 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

well i just got into the whipple myself and from what i read that you hp is a hair high but your Tq is right on. how much timing you running and on what oct of gas?
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default RE: 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

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well i just got into the whipple myself and from what i read that you hp is a hair high but your Tq is right on. how much timing you running and on what oct of gas?
I was on 93 octane. Also, I've got a 3.5 pulley. Someone told me that if I replace it with a 3.0, I would see better torque #'s.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default RE: 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

I would run more boost through that whipple... To me it doesn't make sense to run a more efficient blower at a PSI where, the inferior eaton is efficient... swap that pulley!!!

-Also, I don't know that i'd want the more hp, with the torque lacking.... He has around 20-25more rwhp then most ported eatons, and around 25lb ft torque less... For whoever spent the money on the blower (as I know the OP bought the car with the whipple), that's just not economic to me.... $3,000 for 25rwhp and torque loss???
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default RE: 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

Welcome the site!

IMO you TQ is a little low. I'd expect it to be closer to 500 ft/lbs. But your HP numbers are in the correct range it should be. I wouldn't be too worried.

If you want more TQ, a lower pulley will definitely put you over the 500 ft/lb mark. Also, when you want more power, you still have the option to get an upper pulley for your Whipple. That will also give you more TQ.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default RE: 545rwhp / 481ft-lbs ... Low torque issue?

Add more boost. Or you can spray it. Nitrous really makes your torque shoot up.
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