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Mish-ogynist
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,784
From: Helena, MT
hahaha.. pretty accurate.. except my car went up first 
and yes.. i made different rwhp #s with each pull.. started at 275 then 2nd pull was 285.. didn't opt for the 3rd.. (would have cost i think $20) my car was definetly heat soaked for the 2nd..
I agree with morbid on how to quote car's times.. not using the best runs but a more average run at a low elevation track..
and its not the dyno that is reading differently, your car is outputting varying power levels each time. when you are doing the standard 3 pulls you aren't calibrating the dyno, its already set, your engine is adjusting.. and like the tuner there said.. the #s mean nothing, dynos should only be used for tuning purposes. On the other hand, the track results are fairly clear the dyno was accurate about the difference in power Riptide and I are putting out.. how that equates to someone who dyno'd elsewhere would ofcourse be different.
and yes.. i made different rwhp #s with each pull.. started at 275 then 2nd pull was 285.. didn't opt for the 3rd.. (would have cost i think $20) my car was definetly heat soaked for the 2nd..I agree with morbid on how to quote car's times.. not using the best runs but a more average run at a low elevation track..
and its not the dyno that is reading differently, your car is outputting varying power levels each time. when you are doing the standard 3 pulls you aren't calibrating the dyno, its already set, your engine is adjusting.. and like the tuner there said.. the #s mean nothing, dynos should only be used for tuning purposes. On the other hand, the track results are fairly clear the dyno was accurate about the difference in power Riptide and I are putting out.. how that equates to someone who dyno'd elsewhere would ofcourse be different.
Last edited by Mishri; Oct 14, 2009 at 03:00 PM.
Mish-ogynist
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,784
From: Helena, MT
we had our friend with tons of track experience(and he was also driving a manual s197 gt that night, the guy thats an NHRA registered driver) drive his car with the same results. I dont remember what his trap was though..
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Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,193
From: Montaner
+2 youtube arguments. Might as well smash a blunt object against your head. You'll never fix or get through to all the self described "experts" on there. Dumbass kids most of them.
Nice fiction story there 98LS1. Combining cars and homo sex together. Not sure anyone has pulled that off before. lol
Now regarding the dynos and whatnot. Mishri is a little confused. Kolb02 drove my car but it was before the gears and my new wheels/tires went on. It was also before we put the two cars on the dyno as well. Much earlier in the year.
My best run was a 13.9 @ 100mph. 2.0 60'. The DA was 4600'. The corrected value was a 13.1 @ 106mph. I was not power shifting. I rev'd to around 3000 and slipped the clutch. Mishri's best run was a 13.5. 60' was a 2.0. His corrected value was a 12.8. I do not recall what his actual ET was or the corrected values for it.
Now, take the results, compare them. Mishri still has me by a solid 3 tenths. He has a 10whp dyno advantage. 60' times were similar. So, why the disparity? 10whp shouldn't account for 3 tenths. There are a variety of possible causes there. For one we're comparing corrected results on different days. Secondly, I can't out-shift his car without power shifting which I don't want to do. Thirdly, he does have a small advantage both on power and also slightly less rolling resistance due to his setup. And finally, I am not a natural driver and I do not have a good skill level.
Nice fiction story there 98LS1. Combining cars and homo sex together. Not sure anyone has pulled that off before. lol
Now regarding the dynos and whatnot. Mishri is a little confused. Kolb02 drove my car but it was before the gears and my new wheels/tires went on. It was also before we put the two cars on the dyno as well. Much earlier in the year.
My best run was a 13.9 @ 100mph. 2.0 60'. The DA was 4600'. The corrected value was a 13.1 @ 106mph. I was not power shifting. I rev'd to around 3000 and slipped the clutch. Mishri's best run was a 13.5. 60' was a 2.0. His corrected value was a 12.8. I do not recall what his actual ET was or the corrected values for it.
Now, take the results, compare them. Mishri still has me by a solid 3 tenths. He has a 10whp dyno advantage. 60' times were similar. So, why the disparity? 10whp shouldn't account for 3 tenths. There are a variety of possible causes there. For one we're comparing corrected results on different days. Secondly, I can't out-shift his car without power shifting which I don't want to do. Thirdly, he does have a small advantage both on power and also slightly less rolling resistance due to his setup. And finally, I am not a natural driver and I do not have a good skill level.
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Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,748
From: Wheeling, IL
+2 youtube arguments. Might as well smash a blunt object against your head. You'll never fix or get through to all the self described "experts" on there. Dumbass kids most of them.
Nice fiction story there 98LS1. Combining cars and homo sex together. Not sure anyone has pulled that off before. lol
Now regarding the dynos and whatnot. Mishri is a little confused. Kolb02 drove my car but it was before the gears and my new wheels/tires went on. It was also before we put the two cars on the dyno as well. Much earlier in the year.
My best run was a 13.9 @ 100mph. 2.0 60'. The DA was 4600'. The corrected value was a 13.1 @ 106mph. I was not power shifting. I rev'd to around 3000 and slipped the clutch. Mishri's best run was a 13.5. 60' was a 2.0. His corrected value was a 12.8. I do not recall what his actual ET was or the corrected values for it.
Now, take the results, compare them. Mishri still has me by a solid 3 tenths. He has a 10whp dyno advantage. 60' times were similar. So, why the disparity? 10whp shouldn't account for 3 tenths. There are a variety of possible causes there. For one we're comparing corrected results on different days. Secondly, I can't out-shift his car without power shifting which I don't want to do. Thirdly, he does have a small advantage both on power and also slightly less rolling resistance due to his setup. And finally, I am not a natural driver and I do not have a good skill level.
Nice fiction story there 98LS1. Combining cars and homo sex together. Not sure anyone has pulled that off before. lol
Now regarding the dynos and whatnot. Mishri is a little confused. Kolb02 drove my car but it was before the gears and my new wheels/tires went on. It was also before we put the two cars on the dyno as well. Much earlier in the year.
My best run was a 13.9 @ 100mph. 2.0 60'. The DA was 4600'. The corrected value was a 13.1 @ 106mph. I was not power shifting. I rev'd to around 3000 and slipped the clutch. Mishri's best run was a 13.5. 60' was a 2.0. His corrected value was a 12.8. I do not recall what his actual ET was or the corrected values for it.
Now, take the results, compare them. Mishri still has me by a solid 3 tenths. He has a 10whp dyno advantage. 60' times were similar. So, why the disparity? 10whp shouldn't account for 3 tenths. There are a variety of possible causes there. For one we're comparing corrected results on different days. Secondly, I can't out-shift his car without power shifting which I don't want to do. Thirdly, he does have a small advantage both on power and also slightly less rolling resistance due to his setup. And finally, I am not a natural driver and I do not have a good skill level.
IMO, 8 tenths being a corrected time is a lot of correction. Not to mention 6 MPH.
Also, Mishri's car should weigh a pinch more, if you both have the same options, as his Auto is a good amount heavier than Manual. Just depends I guess.
6th Gear Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,193
From: Montaner
Both my run and his were in similar conditions actually. I agree 8 tenths is a lot. His correction was 7 tenths. OTOH 4600' is pretty terrible air.
Depending on where you get your information. His car weighs over 100lbs less than mine. kbb.com and also his registration state as much. I have no idea why the 07 is supposed to weigh less than the 05-06. But it does if you believe what's printed in both of those places.
Depending on where you get your information. His car weighs over 100lbs less than mine. kbb.com and also his registration state as much. I have no idea why the 07 is supposed to weigh less than the 05-06. But it does if you believe what's printed in both of those places.
Last edited by Riptide; Oct 14, 2009 at 08:34 PM.
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Wash Rinse Repeat
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,312
From: Michigan
so I successfully trolled a GTP tool to death.... I see his eyes melting he is so mad... I know you guys say it's useless to argue on youtube but I am rolling right now so I'm sharing
this is a long drawn out thing but this is where it gets interesting... this was after the fact he admitted he had a low-mid 13 second car to my 12.7 @ 106MPH
HIM
so after he started saying that stufff I had him... and then he started getting mad
check these comments out
I'm just replying with things like this now that I've effed him over on all of his info
you wanna know why I argue on youtube... shining moments like this
LOL
this is a long drawn out thing but this is where it gets interesting... this was after the fact he admitted he had a low-mid 13 second car to my 12.7 @ 106MPH
HIM
I was clocked at 87 mph in the 1/8 mile this summer at the local stop light drags. Right the 1/8 mile mark by a cop's radar gun. So i guess that seals the deal, my car is faster than yours haha. I know you're just going to say that i'm full of **** but i have everything i need now. That was also with my 3.0 pulley, stock injectors and a worse tune.
No i've never been to a real track, so what? And yes it was 87 mph, i must of made a typo before. 8 is right next to 7 incase you didn't know
My car is quicker now anyway. I could put some ET street tires on my car and own your *** off the line. Bottom line is, you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to a GTP.
My car is quicker now anyway. I could put some ET street tires on my car and own your *** off the line. Bottom line is, you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to a GTP.
so after he started saying that stufff I had him... and then he started getting mad
check these comments out
No it hasn't been proven you little bitch. I'm 6'9'' bitch don't ****in sass me or i'll knock your ****in block off you steaming pile of monkey ****.
250 lbs is not a twig for 6'9''. I have a lot of solid muscle mass and i would destroy yuur bitch *** with one hit. My 19" biceps are probably the size of your ****in thighs you little bitch boy. Quit being a wannabe tough guy and just admit that your car is slower than my grocery getter.
Yeah now that i brought up the size of my arms your bitch *** is getting all scared...what a little bitch you are. If you saw me in person you would run in hide. I would straight up break your **** OFF. I would END you you ****in fart flower **** waffle
Would you like some pics of me bitch? I bet you are about 5'6'' 130 lbs of skin and bones you french fried ******. I knocked a guy into mental retardation once you ****in **** bag. He was 300 lbs of pure american muscle. You do not have **** on me you little **** jockey
Keep pushing my buttons bitch boy. You'll end up just like that guy that got knocked into retardedness. He punched 30 times in a row and after the 31st hit i got annoyed so i punched ONCE, knocked his *** out and now he is mentally retarded.
Your stincoln is slower than a stock GTP you ****in ****** **** lmao.
Your stincoln is slower than a stock GTP you ****in ****** **** lmao.
I just stepped on the scale and i weigh 264 now actually. I've been working out a lot lately, so most of that is muscle weight that i have gained. Just admit that you are a little 130 lb fart flower with a pizza face.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bench press 315 lbs, how about you ya boney little bastard? I would flat out OWN you, plain and simple. You don;t have **** on this big hunk of man meant, bitch.
I would put you to shame is every way possible you little bitch boy. It took 5 cops to take me down once. I took one of their night clubs and beat the ever loving **** out of all them. They had to call for back up with 10 other cops just to get me down. I would just flick you off my finger like nothing. You are a sad excuse for existence.
Even the cops were afraid of me bitch, they wouldn't even look at me for fear of me breaking all their ****in teeth out.
oh yeah?
nice fairy tale little kid, it's really too bad that's called felonious assault and is a multi million dollar lawsuit
the stories you tell about yourself are a shining example of what you say about your car... false, and also... a very good look at how most GTP owners act, which is why they are a laughing stock
you're a riot kid, keep typing, get real mad, get super pumped with your twig of a self... just get GRRRR!!! lol
nice fairy tale little kid, it's really too bad that's called felonious assault and is a multi million dollar lawsuit
the stories you tell about yourself are a shining example of what you say about your car... false, and also... a very good look at how most GTP owners act, which is why they are a laughing stock
you're a riot kid, keep typing, get real mad, get super pumped with your twig of a self... just get GRRRR!!! lol
you wanna know why I argue on youtube... shining moments like this
LOL
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