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Old May 26, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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Someone correct me if Im wrong but doesnt the roots style give you instant torque where the side mounted ones take a bit longer like 2000 -3000 rpm before it kicks in?
Old May 26, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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The roots superchargerswill give you more low end torque than a side mounted supercharger. And which one is better depends on your plans for your car.
Old May 26, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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roots sound better
how bout pricing
im planning on mysteads m112 kit
but if side mounted are cheaper i might consider them
Old May 26, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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roots sound better
how bout pricing
im planning on mysteads m112 kit
but if side mounted are cheaper i might consider them
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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The roots kit is cheaper than a centrifical, but marginally so at that.

Here's a quick summary.

Roots = low to mid range torque and hp, however they tend to suffer from sever lag in the upper rpms due to their design and inefficiency at producing boost. Hense why so many 03/04 Cobra owners can their M-112 and go with something better.

Centrifugal = mid to high range troque and boost, they still lag a little, but only in the extreme upper RPMs (or out of the range of a stock engine). They will be slower down low than a roots, but in a longer race, they're nearly always faster due to their power placement and better efficiency at making boost.
Old May 26, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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The roots kit is cheaper than a centrifical, but marginally so at that.

Here's a quick summary.

Roots = low to mid range torque and hp, however they tend to suffer from sever lag in the upper rpms due to their design and inefficiency at producing boost. Hense why so many 03/04 Cobra owners can their M-112 and go with something better.

Centrifugal = mid to high range troque and boost, they still lag a little, but only in the extreme upper RPMs (or out of the range of a stock engine). They will be slower down low than a roots, but in a longer race, they're nearly always faster due to their power placement and better efficiency at making boost.
[/align][/align]There was just an article in MM&FF that said the same thing. The roots sytle or twin screw will give instant boost, but the centrifugal type will take longer to kick in but will have a much higher peak HP. [/align][/align]Don't forget to think about an intercooler also.[/align]
Old May 26, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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I know this sounds nuts, but go play Forza 2 with any mustang and do a race around a track with a roots S/C, and a Centrifugal S/C, you'll see a slight difference in times, but Turbo is always best lol. Granted, it's just a game, but I find it's intellegence to be quite close to real world performance.
Old May 26, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Also:

all assuming manual;

Roots Best Gears: 1-2 and early 3
Centrifugal best gears: late 2, 3, and most of 4
Turbo Best gears: 3, 4, 5
Old May 26, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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vcs i mean logicly not "sound"
umm im just gonna go with the m112 cause
1 price
2 the kit easily attainable
3 works for what i need

Old May 27, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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The roots kit is cheaper than a centrifical, but marginally so at that.

Here's a quick summary.

Roots = low to mid range torque and hp, however they tend to suffer from sever lag in the upper rpms due to their design and inefficiency at producing boost. Hense why so many 03/04 Cobra owners can their M-112 and go with something better.
The problem isdo to mis-matched size of blower to motor. The M112 is just ok for the 4V, butHUGE for the 3.8L/4.2L motors, and makes it much more efficient on the "hp per psi" than the 4V Cobras made.



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