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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Ok, Ive had my car since '02. I bought it with 126k miles and have since taken that to upwards of 300k+ (odometer stopped working at 225k about 4 years ago).

So no surprise I'm in the market for a new engine/short block to replace mine when it eventually fails. Originally i was like many others looking to to a forged 4.3L M112 build, but have come to realize that I would never use it to it's potential. However I would like a bump in displacement. So I've been eyeing the F-150 4.2L as a possible/less expensive replacement.

I can get used 4.2's for $600-$1000, but I've also found a site where I can get a rebuilt 4.2 short block for $1200... which is what i think I'll go for.

Now most of us look to power adders to get us to a competitive performance level, it only makes sense, blower or turbo there are always extensive factors to consider, one being compression ratios and how much boost is safe.

The 4.2L's have a compression ratio of 9.2:1, 9.26:1, or 9.3:1, depending on the year, while the 3.8L is 9.0:1 across the board if I remember correctly. Now here's my question...

If I were to get the rebuilt 4.2L with say 9.2:1 compression, how much boost can be run safely from either an intercooled P-1SC centri blower or single 62mm turbo...just for example?
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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On a stock 4.2L bottom end, you'll peak out about 375 -400 hp safely. Lower compression is more boost friendly, but the differences between those three is not enough to really make a HUGE difference until you start looking into really big power.
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That'll do just fine. My goals for a v6 build since the beginning have always been for 400 bhp. So ballpark... 6-8psi max? or even less?
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by crysalis_01
That'll do just fine. My goals for a v6 build since the beginning have always been for 400 bhp. So ballpark... 6-8psi max? or even less?

Try more, 400rwhp is going to require somewhere around 11psi from a turbo and somewhere around 13-14 from a procharger kit.

And your gonna need cam, ported heads intakes, etc.
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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I understand the need for an upgraded cam and ported heads. Once i pick up the new short block i was going to replace the cam and once my 3.8 decides to give it up I'll have the heads ported locally before having them swapped over.
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if you want boost may as well save for forged.
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Those extra few thousand dollars are much harder for me to come by these days. Doing a Boosted mild build falls much better into what I can afford to spend of my "play around" cash.
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Originally Posted by crysalis_01
Those extra few thousand dollars are much harder for me to come by these days. Doing a Boosted mild build falls much better into what I can afford to spend of my "play around" cash.
Then stay around 350rwhp.
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That's why I said 400 bhp and not rwhp.
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So anyway; just so I can feel like I've gotten a clear answer to my original question... how many lbs of inter-cooled boost is safe for a non-forged 9.3:1 compression ratio?



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