Rant on slow sixxer
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The 02 gen GT's. Not sure which year it was, but it was the same gen, probably an 02 or an 01. The GT beat it off the line, but the Z started to catch up, and got pretty close before they had to shut it down. The GT would probably have kept the lead, but the Z wasn't too far behind.
I'm not hating on the new sixxers, they're pretty good performers, but the SN95's in particular are quite frankly pathetic. The 99 and on mustangs could be better, but its a huge improvement over my year ones.
I'm not hating on the new sixxers, they're pretty good performers, but the SN95's in particular are quite frankly pathetic. The 99 and on mustangs could be better, but its a huge improvement over my year ones.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer
ORIGINAL: eaglecatcher
Yes, but not all driving and racing is in a straight line.
ORIGINAL: simpsonfan13
true but hte mustang is set up as a stright line preformer. always has been
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A GT would not waste a 300ZX. even the NA, it woudl be close. I've seen guys in NA Z's race GT's, and they only lost by about a length or so. The TT would kill the GT any day, but for the NA to hold its own, thats pretty impressive against a car with 2 more cylinders and 1.6 more L of displacement and about 80 more horsepower.
Don't forget thoguh, straight line racing is not the only kind of racing. On a track, a Z will beat a mustang like a red headed step child in the twisties.
A GT would not waste a 300ZX. even the NA, it woudl be close. I've seen guys in NA Z's race GT's, and they only lost by about a length or so. The TT would kill the GT any day, but for the NA to hold its own, thats pretty impressive against a car with 2 more cylinders and 1.6 more L of displacement and about 80 more horsepower.
Don't forget thoguh, straight line racing is not the only kind of racing. On a track, a Z will beat a mustang like a red headed step child in the twisties.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer
ORIGINAL: eaglecatcher
The 02 gen GT's. Not sure which year it was, but it was the same gen, probably an 02 or an 01. The GT beat it off the line, but the Z started to catch up, and got pretty close before they had to shut it down. The GT would probably have kept the lead, but the Z wasn't too far behind.
I'm not hating on the new sixxers, they're pretty good performers, but the SN95's in particular are quite frankly pathetic. The 99 and on mustangs could be better, but its a huge improvement over my year ones.
The 02 gen GT's. Not sure which year it was, but it was the same gen, probably an 02 or an 01. The GT beat it off the line, but the Z started to catch up, and got pretty close before they had to shut it down. The GT would probably have kept the lead, but the Z wasn't too far behind.
I'm not hating on the new sixxers, they're pretty good performers, but the SN95's in particular are quite frankly pathetic. The 99 and on mustangs could be better, but its a huge improvement over my year ones.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer
ORIGINAL: 02 Stang
It's cute, the facts are in front of you. You get what you pay for. The Mustang V6 is a cheap car that performs well compared to cars in its price range. That is what we are comparing right? You've said it over and over again, and I posted up numbers for you. The Mustang is one of the cheapest (Base model Civic is much cheaper), the most powerful, and yes, the heaviest. It looks the best, and I would take it over a POS civic any day. If you want a car for gas mileage, get a Civic. It's that simple. Sell your car for a Civic, because God knows you can get a used one for CHEAP. Look at the EPA for the cars I posted compared to a Mustang - Not that far off (besides the BASE Civic.)
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yes, but sentras get about twice the gas mileage of a mustang, so its fine for them to be slow.
not really. No one said you can't do an engine swap. You can swap in a VG30DETT in for a few grand, that leaves you say 7 grand for other stuff. I'm talking 98 3.8's here, so 10 grand into that will get you suspension, drivetrain, and about 400rwhp (I asked on here about that a while ago, so if you say thats wrong, you're saying mustang drivers dont know much about their own cars). A stock TT will get you into the 13's easy, and then with mods, like rear end, UDP, weight reductions, etc, you will get down into the 10's probably.
DOn't forget though, straight line racing is a small portion of racing. I guarantee you, a 300ZXTT will destroy any mustang around nurburgring. Cobra, GT500, whatever, it will beat it around a twisty course I guarantee you.
Its worthless to defend your car, just admit that ford could have done a much better job with the mustang compared to what you get from other manufacturers for the same price.
yes, but sentras get about twice the gas mileage of a mustang, so its fine for them to be slow.
not really. No one said you can't do an engine swap. You can swap in a VG30DETT in for a few grand, that leaves you say 7 grand for other stuff. I'm talking 98 3.8's here, so 10 grand into that will get you suspension, drivetrain, and about 400rwhp (I asked on here about that a while ago, so if you say thats wrong, you're saying mustang drivers dont know much about their own cars). A stock TT will get you into the 13's easy, and then with mods, like rear end, UDP, weight reductions, etc, you will get down into the 10's probably.
DOn't forget though, straight line racing is a small portion of racing. I guarantee you, a 300ZXTT will destroy any mustang around nurburgring. Cobra, GT500, whatever, it will beat it around a twisty course I guarantee you.
Its worthless to defend your car, just admit that ford could have done a much better job with the mustang compared to what you get from other manufacturers for the same price.
I'm talking used cars here too, where as you seem to be rooted on brand new ones. I can get a better car in the used market than a brand new mustang. I dont' have a problem buying used, as long as I do my research. If I can get a car for a good deal, and let someone else take the depreciation hit, why not? I'd gladly take someones used car and pay the same amount a get a better car for the same or even less money.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer
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So in essence, you are saying that I am right, correct?
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The 02 gen GT's. Not sure which year it was, but it was the same gen, probably an 02 or an 01. The GT beat it off the line, but the Z started to catch up, and got pretty close before they had to shut it down. The GT would probably have kept the lead, but the Z wasn't too far behind.
I'm not hating on the new sixxers, they're pretty good performers, but the SN95's in particular are quite frankly pathetic. The 99 and on mustangs could be better, but its a huge improvement over my year ones.
The 02 gen GT's. Not sure which year it was, but it was the same gen, probably an 02 or an 01. The GT beat it off the line, but the Z started to catch up, and got pretty close before they had to shut it down. The GT would probably have kept the lead, but the Z wasn't too far behind.
I'm not hating on the new sixxers, they're pretty good performers, but the SN95's in particular are quite frankly pathetic. The 99 and on mustangs could be better, but its a huge improvement over my year ones.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer
ORIGINAL: eaglecatcher
The facts are, you're comparing it to much smaller and fewer cylinder engines. Civics aren't that cheap. They hold their resale value better than my car. I couldn't get a decent civic for what I paid for this car because they're so reliable and popular. Unlike you, I'd take an eclipse or an integra, or a 300ZX or a sentra or a maxima over a mustang any day. I'd rather not have a car that pretends to be fast, but isn't fast, isn't reliable, and isn't fuel efficient. I'd rather have a car that handles good, doesn't have non-functional hood scoops and side scoops, and gets better mileage than a poser car.
I'm talking used cars here too, where as you seem to be rooted on brand new ones. I can get a better car in the used market than a brand new mustang. I dont' have a problem buying used, as long as I do my research. If I can get a car for a good deal, and let someone else take the depreciation hit, why not? I'd gladly take someones used car and pay the same amount a get a better car for the same or even less money.
The facts are, you're comparing it to much smaller and fewer cylinder engines. Civics aren't that cheap. They hold their resale value better than my car. I couldn't get a decent civic for what I paid for this car because they're so reliable and popular. Unlike you, I'd take an eclipse or an integra, or a 300ZX or a sentra or a maxima over a mustang any day. I'd rather not have a car that pretends to be fast, but isn't fast, isn't reliable, and isn't fuel efficient. I'd rather have a car that handles good, doesn't have non-functional hood scoops and side scoops, and gets better mileage than a poser car.
I'm talking used cars here too, where as you seem to be rooted on brand new ones. I can get a better car in the used market than a brand new mustang. I dont' have a problem buying used, as long as I do my research. If I can get a car for a good deal, and let someone else take the depreciation hit, why not? I'd gladly take someones used car and pay the same amount a get a better car for the same or even less money.
You can like what you want, I'll like what I want. Don't come on here ranting about how crappy your car is compared to other cars in its price range if you know its horsepoop.
Come on, at least make this challenging.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer
ORIGINAL: simpsonfan13
right but like i said the mustang is a stright line preformer. it was introduced when straight line drag racing was WAY more popular then "twisties" and has remained a stright line preformer since
ORIGINAL: eaglecatcher
Yes, but not all driving and racing is in a straight line.
ORIGINAL: simpsonfan13
true but hte mustang is set up as a stright line preformer. always has been
ORIGINAL: eaglecatcher
A GT would not waste a 300ZX. even the NA, it woudl be close. I've seen guys in NA Z's race GT's, and they only lost by about a length or so. The TT would kill the GT any day, but for the NA to hold its own, thats pretty impressive against a car with 2 more cylinders and 1.6 more L of displacement and about 80 more horsepower.
Don't forget thoguh, straight line racing is not the only kind of racing. On a track, a Z will beat a mustang like a red headed step child in the twisties.
A GT would not waste a 300ZX. even the NA, it woudl be close. I've seen guys in NA Z's race GT's, and they only lost by about a length or so. The TT would kill the GT any day, but for the NA to hold its own, thats pretty impressive against a car with 2 more cylinders and 1.6 more L of displacement and about 80 more horsepower.
Don't forget thoguh, straight line racing is not the only kind of racing. On a track, a Z will beat a mustang like a red headed step child in the twisties.
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RE: Rant on slow sixxer
look people who buy mustangs like myself dont need to buy cars fast stock we make them fast so if your gonna complain about how mustangs are soooo horrible buy a ricer then i will fly by your lil 300 with my shoebox 4 eye
