Hey everyone... i have a 2006 4.0L with a dual conversion kit/ SLP mufflers. i was looking to get myself a CAI and a set of headers. On ebay, there are no-name brand headers selling for $200 and then there are JBA headers selling for $350...just wondering if it makes that much of a difference to spend that extra cash for JBA's which are one of the tops brands available? Also, if there are any CAI recommendations.

 

i wouldnt be cheep with ur car the headers u want from ebay would prob warpto **** in no time the jba's prob have super thick flanges or heat treated already. as for the cai i'd get the cdc shaker scoop looks bad *** my budd has one

 

The best CAI systems by farare the R2C Performance units.Weattended a performance clinic where several systems were tested against one another. They have engineered and developed new technology that has reduced restriction levels by over 60% when compared to existing performance systems. Plus, their new patented filter media isspecifically designed around the actual platform rather than a generic filter that simply fits. The tests regarding engine protection and efficiency showed incredible results. Nothing was even close. Best feature is it's not gauze and needs no oil. No emission system worries. They cleaned them with low pressure air. The companydisplayedphotos of their sophisticated military filtration designs. It looks like they know what they're doing. We had two cars there. The 2005 GT ran incredibly well with the system they tried. It sounds awesome too. My 4.0 system looked great and seemed to run really well. The tubing is unique. Unlike every other company, they don't use round tube. We saw the flow numbers and it was an eye opener. I think they said Jeg's, Summit or Mustangs Unlimited would sell the stuff. I may post a few photos if any would like to see the systems.


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and a late model that I can actually afford to drive!

 

they all do the same thing, its the tune that makes the differance on the s197s,

and a stock air box is already rated at 7X the amount of air the engine can handel

 

I don't know about this R2C company, never heard of them.

Nothing but a JLT would go under the hood if I had a 4.0!

 

The Tucker stuff was tested. Biggest problem there is the miserable SB filter. It was one of the poorest performers of the group. Restriction curve was almost vertical while the efficiency was extremely poor. The JLT stuff is still basically old technology. The tube is larger so velocity is lowered but basically the same as the rest.I can only tell you what I heard and saw. I didn't engineer the systems. Call the guys atR2C Performance and ask them for comparisons. I think they are near the Wisconsin border. No filter cleaner needed and no oil required. That makes a huge difference to me. I will never buy a junk oiled cotton gauze filter from anyone.

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But where are their dyno numbers for proof of gains ? JLT has em

 

Imagine what you could do when you lower your inlet restriction by 25% in the case of this comparison. Isn't that the goal of any quality system? You're still missing or refusing to see the main drawback. Oiled cotton gauze is not, nor has it ever been, an engine filter material. Consider that over 8 times the particulate enters your cylinder each time it completes a cycle over x amount of miles. That can't be good in any case. Now consider any company that produces a quality product that eliminatesingestion due to the filter media design and still provides the most efficient engine performance. I always asked myself why is oil necessary on an air filter? Going further, why is an engine equipped with an air filter? Is it necessary? If not, let's chuck them and eliminate that source or restriction. I remember it was some years agothat I saw a gauzefilter that was crushed by a car. I actually got a look at what was being used for the filter material. It was ridiculous. It looked like a window screen. I'm not an engineer in fluid mechanics or particulates, but I would imagine that damage to cylinder walls and oil breakdown occursdue toparticles much smaller than these openings. There are a few good independent tests on available on the Internet. Take a look at these results and see if it makes sense to look elsewhere for a true quality filter. These gauze filters must literally be dirt cheap.

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YOU sound like a sales person more than a car enthusiast........


All the people who have ran these darn "ineffective" cotton filters and made tons of hp and never had any problems? Ya know if it aint broke don't fix it?

 

Sales person indeed! Muscle Cars and restorations at your service. Thank you.

If you see no need to improve, god speed to you and best of luck.

I thought staying on the leading edge of technology has led us to the many significant developments that allowtoday's cars to offer the level of performance and efficiency we experience.

"Aint broke don't fix it"

Carburetors aren't broke. My old dinosaurs run just fine each day. Ignition points broke? I think not. They seem to work okay on the way to the shows and cruise nights. As a matter of fact, let me know which one of the components you replaced along the way that was broke? You didn't actually need any of the accessories related toperformance, handling or cosmetics that you have installed. When new technology is appealing and we canderive some kind of tangible benefit, we buy it. We work hard and it's important to have an outlet that provides enjoyment. I like a rational and educated explanation that supports a reason to look at other products or technologies.

Aint broke? In reality, most of us have no clue to what extent gradual and certainly preventable damage may be occuringas a resultof many scenarios within our cars. Take a look at a nice RMS on a cylinder wall that's been subjected to severe conditions. More immediately,consider what happens to engine oil from the effects of particulate ingestion.

No sir. Cotton gauze is not, nor has it ever been, a material for filters. It's used because it's cheap. That's it! Why do you suppose oil is necessary? Do you think that 35 or 40 years ago when a biker wrapped a filter housing with this stuff, he researched filter material? The industrial gauze guys must have laughed like hell when these guys called and said they wanted the product for an engine filter. I imagine they're still laughing. Maybe they bought a star in the registry after building the gauze filter.

I'm not sure about your thoughts, but I'll continue to look at new and more effective technology.

Business has slowed somewhat and that's what has facilitated these rambling monologues and performance theologies. If you need a quality Muscle Car or restoration work is necessary, it's appreciated.

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