Sixxer chat
So I got my SF3 today, got a slight tune to the car, exhaust parts sitting in the garage waiting for me to bring it to the shop and put her on the lift...
AND NOWWW, the freakin belt is squeaking/squealing...
Think a weak belt tension arm could cause that?
AND NOWWW, the freakin belt is squeaking/squealing...
Think a weak belt tension arm could cause that?
Is there a reason why no one has intercooled the M112 on a V6 before? To me it seems pretty simple how one could do it, but I know what seems simple on paper/in someones head is very different from what actually happens.
There are a few people working on it if I'm not mistaken. Theres a lot of clearance issues as it is now with another inch or something in between the blower and lower intake we would be up to like a 5 inch cowl to clear the snout. And its not cheap since they would be custom made pieces. Some people on V6power have threads about it if you want to research it go check it out. And they would be like ballpark $1,500-2,000 a piece or something I think someone said
1) It's not needed.
2) Hard part: We don't have a nice valley lift the OHC motors do. We have very limited height to work off of. Cost would be very limiting. For an IC'd set up, you're looking at fabbing up a custom lower, eliminating the upper and still needing to make custom coolant lines to flow to the heads, emissions junk and have it all machined out. I had close to $20K tied up in a custom lower than would bolt up to split port heads and sit low enough to have an M112 on top while still accounting for all the details. Never saw fruit from that tree. But it did lead to the MUCH easier non intercooled boxed upper which has been proven to over 500 hp for us.
3) Creating a boxed upper deep enough to account for the height of the intercooler would add close to 6" to the current set up. I don't want a 8" cowl.
4) The split box idea for a FMIC didn't work either. (Tried it) Due to the amount of air you'd be moving, you'd need 3 1/2" piping. Meaning the 2 1/2" upper becomes a 5" upper when you account for angels and space inside the intake. For all the friction you'd create with longer piping and the IC, you'd have to up the boost to get the same amount of CFM into your heads.
2) Hard part: We don't have a nice valley lift the OHC motors do. We have very limited height to work off of. Cost would be very limiting. For an IC'd set up, you're looking at fabbing up a custom lower, eliminating the upper and still needing to make custom coolant lines to flow to the heads, emissions junk and have it all machined out. I had close to $20K tied up in a custom lower than would bolt up to split port heads and sit low enough to have an M112 on top while still accounting for all the details. Never saw fruit from that tree. But it did lead to the MUCH easier non intercooled boxed upper which has been proven to over 500 hp for us.
3) Creating a boxed upper deep enough to account for the height of the intercooler would add close to 6" to the current set up. I don't want a 8" cowl.
4) The split box idea for a FMIC didn't work either. (Tried it) Due to the amount of air you'd be moving, you'd need 3 1/2" piping. Meaning the 2 1/2" upper becomes a 5" upper when you account for angels and space inside the intake. For all the friction you'd create with longer piping and the IC, you'd have to up the boost to get the same amount of CFM into your heads.
It started as an M90, moved to M112. Had a few proto-types made to test out. Each one was custom cast to a 'one of' kind of thing. Each time they needed to be tweaked it cost me another mold set up. It would have ended up being more than a turbo set up for cost to have custom lowers cast for our V6s. Not worth it at all.


