Warranty and performance upgrades
03-23-2006, 08:06 PM
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RE: Warranty and performance upgrades
This type of thread has been posted a zillion times. Here's the law regarding warranties
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm
Summary, replacement of an OEM part with an aftermarket part only voids the factory warranty on the OEM part you replaced...because it's no longer OEM (DUH)
If said aftermarket part causes another OEM part to fail, then the related OEM part warranty is also voided (double duh) However they -the dealer - must prove (here's where people get fugged up) that the aftermarket part CAUSED the failure of said OEM part before they can void any warranties on related parts.
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http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm
Summary, replacement of an OEM part with an aftermarket part only voids the factory warranty on the OEM part you replaced...because it's no longer OEM (DUH)
If said aftermarket part causes another OEM part to fail, then the related OEM part warranty is also voided (double duh) However they -the dealer - must prove (here's where people get fugged up) that the aftermarket part CAUSED the failure of said OEM part before they can void any warranties on related parts.
Have fun modding!
03-23-2006, 09:12 PM
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RE: Warranty and performance upgrades
hey, Harry_F, i reallylike the way you said exactly what i said one post above.
TECHNICALLY thaymust prove it BUT they dont have to prove it, they can just say *that* caused *this* to fail, and what can you do to contest that? nothing, like i said earlier court=money. so youjust have to find the right dealer with a cool service guy, if he is a doushe, than your going to have to pay for it.
nothsa: the tuner definately VOIDS your warranty on pretty much anything that fails that is connected to the ecu ie; engine. if you screw the tune your engine will be screwed, ie: timing, A/F, ....... im getting one anyway but if it screws something up im screwed.
TECHNICALLY thaymust prove it BUT they dont have to prove it, they can just say *that* caused *this* to fail, and what can you do to contest that? nothing, like i said earlier court=money. so youjust have to find the right dealer with a cool service guy, if he is a doushe, than your going to have to pay for it.
nothsa: the tuner definately VOIDS your warranty on pretty much anything that fails that is connected to the ecu ie; engine. if you screw the tune your engine will be screwed, ie: timing, A/F, ....... im getting one anyway but if it screws something up im screwed.
03-23-2006, 10:26 PM
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RE: Warranty and performance upgrades
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hey, Harry_F, i reallylike the way you said exactly what i said one post above.
TECHNICALLY thaymust prove it BUT they dont have to prove it, they can just say *that* caused *this* to fail, and what can you do to contest that? nothing, like i said earlier court=money. so youjust have to find the right dealer with a cool service guy, if he is a doushe, than your going to have to pay for it.
nothsa: the tuner definately VOIDS your warranty on pretty much anything that fails that is connected to the ecu ie; engine. if you screw the tune your engine will be screwed, ie: timing, A/F, ....... im getting one anyway but if it screws something up im screwed.
hey, Harry_F, i reallylike the way you said exactly what i said one post above.
TECHNICALLY thaymust prove it BUT they dont have to prove it, they can just say *that* caused *this* to fail, and what can you do to contest that? nothing, like i said earlier court=money. so youjust have to find the right dealer with a cool service guy, if he is a doushe, than your going to have to pay for it.
nothsa: the tuner definately VOIDS your warranty on pretty much anything that fails that is connected to the ecu ie; engine. if you screw the tune your engine will be screwed, ie: timing, A/F, ....... im getting one anyway but if it screws something up im screwed.
I took my car in for a bad Throttle Position Sensor... I had my Nitrous Tune loaded in the car... I had my Zex Nitrous kit still connected including the wire that SPLICES into the Throttle Position Sensor... Dealership replaced the TPS... no questions asked...
Even if the dealershp can tell the ECU has been reflashed (which I still doubt my dearlership would ever be able to do... LOL) there is no way they can prove that I reflashed it... The dealership was supposed to reflashed my ECU when they replaced the TPS...
03-24-2006, 12:01 AM
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RE: Warranty and performance upgrades
Hmm.. okay then what tuner and intake to buy diablo or SCT II and also U.D pulleys they have them for our cars now and im an auto so do i have to do anything special with the tune. and will i even notice a gain my friend put a procharger in his v6 auto along with some other stuff and its decent on speed and acceleration.
03-24-2006, 04:59 PM
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RE: Warranty and performance upgrades
yeah scrming, thats the one thing he didnt copy from my earlier posts. LOL yeah i donk know how they can tell but when i talked to the guys they said they could. No idae how but i believe them. yeah it could log it somewhere or something, i dont think it has anything to do with rebooting. Apparently your service guy is pretty cool!
wait, its descent? 350 hp and descent, i hate to think what you think about your cars acceleration!!! LOL
wait, its descent? 350 hp and descent, i hate to think what you think about your cars acceleration!!! LOL
03-24-2006, 05:44 PM
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RE: Warranty and performance upgrades
its decent for a sports car i mean porsche makes 500+ from a 6 cylinder or inline 6 im used to my dads car so 350 is decent to moderately quick and my cars accel. is in my opinion considered decent. sorry your right 350 is more that decent.
03-24-2006, 10:34 PM
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RE: Warranty and performance upgrades
So when if I where to disconnect the car from the battery before i take it back to the dealership, the ECU will be reflashed? and will their be any traces of the ecu being reprogramed or reflashed with a aftermarket system lets say lidio for example? My warranty won't be voided will it?
another question; Are the chances of something wrong related to the retune worth the advantages it brings?
I've asked this question a couple times and still hasn't been answered, I have a stick and i can tell that their is a little throttle lag will the say lidio tune and C&L be worth it?
another question; Are the chances of something wrong related to the retune worth the advantages it brings?
I've asked this question a couple times and still hasn't been answered, I have a stick and i can tell that their is a little throttle lag will the say lidio tune and C&L be worth it?