track disapointment
07-31-2006, 07:51 PM
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RE: track disapointment
yea a tlok is a MUST if you go to the track. I went last friday to an 1/8mi track and best I could getw as 10.2. My tires pretty much spun the entire first gear every time and most of second with third gear chirps. Doug's race tune seems to make too much down low power for the 1 tire to handle. Can't wait to see my times with his race tune once I get a tlok though!
07-31-2006, 08:18 PM
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RE: track disapointment
ORIGINAL: boss 244
I think the weight is odd to, the weight listed for a v6 convertible in road and track is 3450 ( they also show the 1/4 time as 15.1@92.7). I don't think any mods I've done weighed any more than the original parts. I bet the wheels weigh more because their chrome , but not 200 lbs. That weight was with a 1/4 tank of gas too. I will try warming the tires and set the PSI at 35 when I go to the track again this week and see what happens.
I think the weight is odd to, the weight listed for a v6 convertible in road and track is 3450 ( they also show the 1/4 time as 15.1@92.7). I don't think any mods I've done weighed any more than the original parts. I bet the wheels weigh more because their chrome , but not 200 lbs. That weight was with a 1/4 tank of gas too. I will try warming the tires and set the PSI at 35 when I go to the track again this week and see what happens.
07-31-2006, 09:53 PM
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RE: track disapointment
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I ran a friend of mines stock 06 V6. I managed to pull a 15.03 with it on my first pass. (Albeit faster than he's ever gotten it.) Something tells me that you guys aren't shifting hard and fast enough. I'll admit that the trans was crying when I was done with it.
I ran a friend of mines stock 06 V6. I managed to pull a 15.03 with it on my first pass. (Albeit faster than he's ever gotten it.) Something tells me that you guys aren't shifting hard and fast enough. I'll admit that the trans was crying when I was done with it.
07-31-2006, 09:58 PM
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RE: track disapointment
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Crap...I got my SCT2 and loaded the tune made for my car with the S&B cai, it ran a 15.5 best, I put the microtuner back in and ran 15.3 vs. my best of 15.1 with that setup ( it was 89 and very humid that evening, everyone was saying how crappy the air was). With the SCT2 I barely outran an older 3.8 mustang and a v6 camaro. All my runs were slow because of the heat, but I really expected that the SCT would be better. I have talked with my tuner and have two new tunes to try for the S&B. My C&L was shipped Friday, so hopefully the tune for that will lower my et.
I also installed my MAC shorty headers saturday-took about 4 hours, they fit ok, but the bolts they supplied to bolt them to the heads are the wrong thread and you have to dimple the header so the AIR hose will fit back on. These headers don't have the extensions on the header flanges to relocate the ignition, so I have to grind off the bottom of the bracket so all the bolts are reused. I took a bunch of photos of the install and will try to put it together in a sensible manner if anybody is interested.
I will have my t-loc and 3:73 installed wednesday and head back to the track, but it's gonna be 105 here that day, so I hope I get into the 14's!
There was a new Saturn ion redline, supercharged, when I ran him he ran a 14.00!! vs my crappy 15.8.
Anyways, I was very dissapointed with my results with the SCT2, But hope the C&L intake and tune cures that!
Crap...I got my SCT2 and loaded the tune made for my car with the S&B cai, it ran a 15.5 best, I put the microtuner back in and ran 15.3 vs. my best of 15.1 with that setup ( it was 89 and very humid that evening, everyone was saying how crappy the air was). With the SCT2 I barely outran an older 3.8 mustang and a v6 camaro. All my runs were slow because of the heat, but I really expected that the SCT would be better. I have talked with my tuner and have two new tunes to try for the S&B. My C&L was shipped Friday, so hopefully the tune for that will lower my et.
I also installed my MAC shorty headers saturday-took about 4 hours, they fit ok, but the bolts they supplied to bolt them to the heads are the wrong thread and you have to dimple the header so the AIR hose will fit back on. These headers don't have the extensions on the header flanges to relocate the ignition, so I have to grind off the bottom of the bracket so all the bolts are reused. I took a bunch of photos of the install and will try to put it together in a sensible manner if anybody is interested.
I will have my t-loc and 3:73 installed wednesday and head back to the track, but it's gonna be 105 here that day, so I hope I get into the 14's!
There was a new Saturn ion redline, supercharged, when I ran him he ran a 14.00!! vs my crappy 15.8.
Anyways, I was very dissapointed with my results with the SCT2, But hope the C&L intake and tune cures that!
08-01-2006, 01:06 AM
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RE: track disapointment
ORIGINAL: HungLikeATunaCan
I ran a friend of mines stock 06 V6. I managed to pull a 15.03 with it on my first pass. (Albeit faster than he's ever gotten it.) Something tells me that you guys aren't shifting hard and fast enough. I'll admit that the trans was crying when I was done with it.
I ran a friend of mines stock 06 V6. I managed to pull a 15.03 with it on my first pass. (Albeit faster than he's ever gotten it.) Something tells me that you guys aren't shifting hard and fast enough. I'll admit that the trans was crying when I was done with it.
08-01-2006, 02:54 AM
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RE: track disapointment
actually i dont know if anyone remembers but there was sightings of a 14.7-9 (dont member exactly) run on a stock 4.0L stang... dont remember who... but someone saw it... i guess there was no documentation... or slips... so it isnt official or anything but he was not a fellow 4.0 member, so i am unaware of why they would be dishonest, nonetheless... possible "bs"...
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08-01-2006, 03:10 AM
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RE: track disapointment
i call bs, i did a 14.86 with a gtech, but everyone knows thats bs lol.
Even at sealevel my 15.26 would be like a 15.04 or 15.05 or so, and i feel like i got just as much out of it as possible.
For me to believe times like that, id need to see the timeslip, and other timeslips with the same car # from the same night running within a tenth of a second.
Even at sealevel my 15.26 would be like a 15.04 or 15.05 or so, and i feel like i got just as much out of it as possible.
For me to believe times like that, id need to see the timeslip, and other timeslips with the same car # from the same night running within a tenth of a second.
08-01-2006, 01:43 PM
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RE: track disapointment
I think I'll weigh the wheels with tires to see the difference. With the micro tuner the shift pressure is higher already and you can't tune it, the SCT allows up to 25% but even then it's not as fast shifting as the microtuner. The sct also needed the timing advanced it's allowable limit to run 15.5. I installed the C&L with the SCT 87 tune last night and still had to advance the low timing 4 degrees to get it to launch, It still needs more though. Right now the C&L + SCT2 'feels' it's at the same power as the S&B + Microtuner, but we will see at the track.
