Even faster at the track
09-05-2006, 08:11 PM
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RE: Even faster at the track
ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke
Yea, he owns it, he is Lund Racing. Jon Lund. He posted this on another forum and on TMC.
ORIGINAL: fazm
im pretty sure he said he owns it, i remember that a while back. said he owns lund racing, but they dont have an in house dyno, i think he uses some place else to do his dyno pulls.
im pretty sure he said he owns it, i remember that a while back. said he owns lund racing, but they dont have an in house dyno, i think he uses some place else to do his dyno pulls.
Hey Rygen I was on the front page of 2005 MF threads this morning and I look up and caught your name under "Even Faster at the track" link thought it was you I said **** I thought he wasn't running till this weekend so i click on the link thinking it was you LOL and I wasn't the only one 1Shortbus (Powerhouse Turbo
) was also in here must of thought it was you to. LOL
09-05-2006, 08:43 PM
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RE: Even faster at the track
ORIGINAL: scrming
I think if he was running lean it would ping like an SOB... I know when we leaned mine out it pinged like crazy... sooooo... While I don't think he's running dangerously lean, it still wouldn't hurt to get in on a dyno with a wideband...
also... question regarding the ram air comment... even if it was a closed box it really shouldn't affect things as long as he doesn't peg the MAF... ???
ORIGINAL: TJ
Boss 244 you really need to see the AFR though the bung before the cats at WOT on a dyno it is the only way I would have it checked I wouldn't even consider the sniffer, I would just get it on a dyno and have the AFR checked its worth it to pay a little now (insurance peace of mind)instead of pay big time for a motor later. I myself am getting a dyno just to check on the AFR on Bama's race tune on the 24th for my own peace of mind.
The one thing that comes to mind if I remember correctly you said you have a ram air setup now of course from old research tells me only possibly 2-5 HP, but I wass thinking about yours depending on how it is setup could be going lean on top end forcing more air in. But I would only consider the possibilty of this if you had a closed box ram air setup. If its just ram air with no air box disregard this paragraph.
I myself think you are possibly running lean.
Boss 244 you really need to see the AFR though the bung before the cats at WOT on a dyno it is the only way I would have it checked I wouldn't even consider the sniffer, I would just get it on a dyno and have the AFR checked its worth it to pay a little now (insurance peace of mind)instead of pay big time for a motor later. I myself am getting a dyno just to check on the AFR on Bama's race tune on the 24th for my own peace of mind.
The one thing that comes to mind if I remember correctly you said you have a ram air setup now of course from old research tells me only possibly 2-5 HP, but I wass thinking about yours depending on how it is setup could be going lean on top end forcing more air in. But I would only consider the possibilty of this if you had a closed box ram air setup. If its just ram air with no air box disregard this paragraph.
I myself think you are possibly running lean.
also... question regarding the ram air comment... even if it was a closed box it really shouldn't affect things as long as he doesn't peg the MAF... ???
Ok first he is running a C&L (w/S&B filter smaller but still high flow) that requires a tune because of the increased amout of air that is now coming in , but on a tune that wasn't dynoed/tuned for the C&L, then add a ram air system if closed boxed forcing more air on top end again on the same tune mentioned above. Just thinking forcing more air in on top end in a closed air box similar to the Fang system (which I doubt he made similar or is running but not sure?) and a tune that wasn't setup for this amount of air plus along with the C&L CAI this could be a recipe for a lean condition .
Just thinking out loud no facts and if its open ram air system of course than the ram air part could be excluded from the above.
But the MAF not sure on the effects (w/closed air box ram air) and the C&L being 80mm and is larger than normal CAI's used on 4.0 which according to Doug is oversized for the 4.0 needs compared to the other CA. I not sure how this (your question) could effect the MAF being pegged (if even possible) would need to ask one of the tuners about this or if someone else could answer about this other to say a lean condition could still occur.
09-05-2006, 09:08 PM
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RE: Even faster at the track
What are some symptoms of running lean/rich? My chrome tip on my exhaust is really getting some carbon build up, figure that could be a sign of something.... like a symptom of driving. 
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Just curious.
..Just curious.
09-05-2006, 09:24 PM
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RE: Even faster at the track
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What are some symptoms of running lean/rich? My chrome tip on my exhaust is really getting some carbon build up, figure that could be a sign of something.... like a symptom of driving...
Just curious.
What are some symptoms of running lean/rich? My chrome tip on my exhaust is really getting some carbon build up, figure that could be a sign of something.... like a symptom of driving.
..Just curious.
Running a much faster ET than normal per mild mods could be a symptom. LOL
09-05-2006, 11:43 PM
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RE: Even faster at the track
ORIGINAL: TJ
When running lean (running a CAI that requires a tune) might not have any symptoms ( sometimes a CEL) the only real way is to go and have it checked.
Running a much faster ET than normal per mild mods could be a symptom. LOL
ORIGINAL: windveilpete
What are some symptoms of running lean/rich? My chrome tip on my exhaust is really getting some carbon build up, figure that could be a sign of something.... like a symptom of driving...
Just curious.
What are some symptoms of running lean/rich? My chrome tip on my exhaust is really getting some carbon build up, figure that could be a sign of something.... like a symptom of driving.
..Just curious.
Running a much faster ET than normal per mild mods could be a symptom. LOL
09-05-2006, 11:50 PM
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RE: Even faster at the track
ORIGINAL: fazm
hrmmmm should i change my plugs? lol
hrmmmm should i change my plugs? lol
http://www.dragstuff.com/techarticle...ead-plugs.html
09-05-2006, 11:51 PM
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RE: Even faster at the track
ORIGINAL: scrming
could also read the spark plugs... ???
ORIGINAL: TJ
When running lean (running a CAI that requires a tune) might not have any symptoms ( sometimes a CEL) the only real way is to go and have it checked.
Running a much faster ET than normal per mild mods could be a symptom. LOL
ORIGINAL: windveilpete
What are some symptoms of running lean/rich? My chrome tip on my exhaust is really getting some carbon build up, figure that could be a sign of something.... like a symptom of driving...
Just curious.
What are some symptoms of running lean/rich? My chrome tip on my exhaust is really getting some carbon build up, figure that could be a sign of something.... like a symptom of driving.
..Just curious.
Running a much faster ET than normal per mild mods could be a symptom. LOL
still would pefer to be checked on the dyno at WOT for an accurate AFR.
09-06-2006, 12:00 AM
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RE: Even faster at the track
Scrming hmmm
I just pulled out my Hayes manual w/picures of plugs not showing lean.
Normal
Carbon Deposit
Oil fouled
Gap bridging
Too Hot
Preigniton
Glazing
Detonation
Mechanical damage
No lean?
I just pulled out my Hayes manual w/picures of plugs not showing lean.
Normal
Carbon Deposit
Oil fouled
Gap bridging
Too Hot
Preigniton
Glazing
Detonation
Mechanical damage
No lean?
09-06-2006, 12:26 AM
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RE: Even faster at the track
ORIGINAL: scrming
lots of sites... here's one I found quickly...
http://www.dragstuff.com/techarticle...ead-plugs.html
ORIGINAL: fazm
hrmmmm should i change my plugs? lol
hrmmmm should i change my plugs? lol
http://www.dragstuff.com/techarticle...ead-plugs.html
Edited - skip the request below scrming I just found one (link) too confusing pictures 22-24 /to many pictures if you think its running lean I wouldn't rely on (per picture) the look of the plugs on a lean condition I would just take it in and get it checked.
http://www.dansmc.com/Spark_Plugs/Sp...s_catalog.html
Scrming could you post a picture of a lean plug you might have handy from one of your web sites.