manual shifting in an automatic
#11
RE: manual shifting in an automatic
the best thing to do is to just let the computer do the shifting for you. unless u know how to time your shifts. when u manually shift an auto there is a small delay but if u do it enough and practice it you can actually time it so it shifts better. but it takes a while to get it down. just get a tuner. it will get rid of all those problems. best thing you can do for cheap for an auto!
#12
RE: manual shifting in an automatic
ORIGINAL: FyouGitive
The auto is a little weird. Seems to me if you put it in first it'll stay there, fine for starting from a stop. Put it in second, it'll stay there, and even from a dead stop, there you are in second. Not so bad, considering the torque available. But, put it in third, it'll stay there, too, even from a dead stop. Dead stop starts in third are quiet and slow, but possible. Of course, going to fourth (Drive) puts you back in full auto mode.
The auto is a little weird. Seems to me if you put it in first it'll stay there, fine for starting from a stop. Put it in second, it'll stay there, and even from a dead stop, there you are in second. Not so bad, considering the torque available. But, put it in third, it'll stay there, too, even from a dead stop. Dead stop starts in third are quiet and slow, but possible. Of course, going to fourth (Drive) puts you back in full auto mode.
That is how automatics work. Anything other than "D"allows only the gear selected to work. This allows traction in bad weather by decreasing the amount of torque to the rear wheels.
ORIGINAL: FyouGitive
The real problem for autocrossing is throttle response: mash the pedal and Mr Mustang Computer says, "Huh? Full throttle that quick? Are you sure?" and by the time it takes you seriously, a couple seconds have gone by and not much forward motion. I understand that kind of thing can be minimized by a tune, but that'll have to wait for a while.
The real problem for autocrossing is throttle response: mash the pedal and Mr Mustang Computer says, "Huh? Full throttle that quick? Are you sure?" and by the time it takes you seriously, a couple seconds have gone by and not much forward motion. I understand that kind of thing can be minimized by a tune, but that'll have to wait for a while.
SOHC
#13
RE: manual shifting in an automatic
I've been manually shifting with my auto for some time now.
Adds some fun to a boring drive.
One thing I noticed is unless I'm going REALLY slow, shifting into first is noisy, mechanical sound...
Hard to describe, but it sounds like shouldn't be downshifting to first.
I don't mean I shift all the way down to first.
I'll engine break by bringing it down to 3, then 2, then 1.
soon as I hit 1 I hear what I think is a bad noise.
Adds some fun to a boring drive.
One thing I noticed is unless I'm going REALLY slow, shifting into first is noisy, mechanical sound...
Hard to describe, but it sounds like shouldn't be downshifting to first.
I don't mean I shift all the way down to first.
I'll engine break by bringing it down to 3, then 2, then 1.
soon as I hit 1 I hear what I think is a bad noise.
#14
RE: manual shifting in an automatic
well i doubt that it is too good to engine break. i mean ur not gonna blow it of course but u are adding more stress to it which cant be good for the car. i just use the break[8D]
#15
RE: manual shifting in an automatic
The owner's manual specifies you can downshift manually to use engine braking...
1st gear should be about 10MPH when slowing down.
2ndgear should be about 20MPH when slowing down.
3rd gear should be about 40MPH when slowing down.
4st gear (overdrive off) should be about 60MPH when slowing down.
Less is OK, higher and you will get those "clunks" and "thunks"...
SOHC
1st gear should be about 10MPH when slowing down.
2ndgear should be about 20MPH when slowing down.
3rd gear should be about 40MPH when slowing down.
4st gear (overdrive off) should be about 60MPH when slowing down.
Less is OK, higher and you will get those "clunks" and "thunks"...
SOHC
#17
RE: manual shifting in an automatic
ORIGINAL: SOHCman
The owner's manual specifies you can downshift manually to use engine braking...
1st gear should be about 10MPH when slowing down.
2ndgear should be about 20MPH when slowing down.
3rd gear should be about 40MPH when slowing down.
4st gear (overdrive off) should be about 60MPH when slowing down.
Less is OK, higher and you will get those "clunks" and "thunks"...
SOHC
The owner's manual specifies you can downshift manually to use engine braking...
1st gear should be about 10MPH when slowing down.
2ndgear should be about 20MPH when slowing down.
3rd gear should be about 40MPH when slowing down.
4st gear (overdrive off) should be about 60MPH when slowing down.
Less is OK, higher and you will get those "clunks" and "thunks"...
SOHC
Now, help me verify this other "discovery": the hesitation between full throttle (from a standstill) and actual aggressive forward motion is much longer with the lever in 1 than in D. That would mean a more complex routine, with greater potential for error, in autocross: start in D and shift back to 1 to be able to control the 1-2 shift, or shift back to 2 when 1 is no longer appropriate.
In the words of Vinnie Barbarino, "I'm so confused!"
#20
RE: manual shifting in an automatic
ORIGINAL: 8cd03gro
I wouldn't downshift in the auto....sure you can do it safely, but why put extra stress on your drivetrain? brakes are less expensive than a tranny.
I wouldn't downshift in the auto....sure you can do it safely, but why put extra stress on your drivetrain? brakes are less expensive than a tranny.
Perhaps a "tune" would eliminate the long latency between floor-the-gas and shift-to-lower-gear, which without hand-shifting results in some inappropriate and time-wasteful activity.
But you are absolutely correct about not abusing the machinery—most of the time.
ORIGINAL: stangfreak2
sometimes i do it just for fun, but your tranny will do it better than you can...just let it do it for you..trust me
sometimes i do it just for fun, but your tranny will do it better than you can...just let it do it for you..trust me
Cheers!