n2o and S/C
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n2o and S/C
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I have a 2006 v6 convertible and i want to get more power out of it. I was thinking about purchasing a s/c for a big boost of permanent power, but i still need to save up some more for it. So my question is, if i want to get some more power now can i get Nitrous safely without modifying a bunch of parts? Also, will I be able to add a S/C if I put in nitrous first? Are there any important things i should do first?
Thanks for you help,
Trey
I have a 2006 v6 convertible and i want to get more power out of it. I was thinking about purchasing a s/c for a big boost of permanent power, but i still need to save up some more for it. So my question is, if i want to get some more power now can i get Nitrous safely without modifying a bunch of parts? Also, will I be able to add a S/C if I put in nitrous first? Are there any important things i should do first?
Thanks for you help,
Trey
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RE: n2o and S/C
Do you currently have a CAI, tune, and GT takeoff exhaust installed?
If you haven't done that yet, I'd consider doing that first, it feels like you gain about 30-40hp. For about $500.00, you could really give some punch to your engine with a CAI/tune/GT takeoff exhaust combo.
If you haven't done that yet, I'd consider doing that first, it feels like you gain about 30-40hp. For about $500.00, you could really give some punch to your engine with a CAI/tune/GT takeoff exhaust combo.
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RE: n2o and S/C
There are definitely dangers with running nitrous, but there are certainly safeguards in place. A 50-shot of nitrous has helped bring my 1/4 mile time down to 13.7 seconds @103 mph. (Intake, tune, exhaust, gears and limited weight reduction too.) MM & FF magazine could only muster a 13.8 with a Shelby GT-H, so that makes me feel pretty good.
ZEX hasa switch that ties in with your throttle position sensor and automatically activates the nitrous without me pressing any buttons. There is alsoa controller (Active Fuel Controller) that helps prevent rich and lean conditions. I also use a traction control window switch which allows you to select which gears the nitrous will spray in-- and helps avoid intake backfire and detonation.
My confidence has been built because the shop that installed my nitrous system feels that on stock internals, most engines and transmissions can handle up to a 75 shot with no major issues-- given the fact that the engine is in good shape to begin with.
ZEX hasa switch that ties in with your throttle position sensor and automatically activates the nitrous without me pressing any buttons. There is alsoa controller (Active Fuel Controller) that helps prevent rich and lean conditions. I also use a traction control window switch which allows you to select which gears the nitrous will spray in-- and helps avoid intake backfire and detonation.
My confidence has been built because the shop that installed my nitrous system feels that on stock internals, most engines and transmissions can handle up to a 75 shot with no major issues-- given the fact that the engine is in good shape to begin with.
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RE: n2o and S/C
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There are definitely dangers with running nitrous, but there are certainly safeguards in place. A 50-shot of nitrous has helped bring my 1/4 mile time down to 13.7 seconds @103 mph. (Intake, tune, exhaust, gears and limited weight reduction too.) MM & FF magazine could only muster a 13.8 with a Shelby GT-H, so that makes me feel pretty good.
ZEX hasa switch that ties in with your throttle position sensor and automatically activates the nitrous without me pressing any buttons. There is alsoa controller (Active Fuel Controller) that helps prevent rich and lean conditions. I also use a traction control window switch which allows you to select which gears the nitrous will spray in-- and helps avoid intake backfire and detonation.
My confidence has been built because the shop that installed my nitrous system feels that on stock internals, most engines and transmissions can handle up to a 75 shot with no major issues-- given the fact that the engine is in good shape to begin with.
There are definitely dangers with running nitrous, but there are certainly safeguards in place. A 50-shot of nitrous has helped bring my 1/4 mile time down to 13.7 seconds @103 mph. (Intake, tune, exhaust, gears and limited weight reduction too.) MM & FF magazine could only muster a 13.8 with a Shelby GT-H, so that makes me feel pretty good.
ZEX hasa switch that ties in with your throttle position sensor and automatically activates the nitrous without me pressing any buttons. There is alsoa controller (Active Fuel Controller) that helps prevent rich and lean conditions. I also use a traction control window switch which allows you to select which gears the nitrous will spray in-- and helps avoid intake backfire and detonation.
My confidence has been built because the shop that installed my nitrous system feels that on stock internals, most engines and transmissions can handle up to a 75 shot with no major issues-- given the fact that the engine is in good shape to begin with.
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RE: n2o and S/C
With a proper tune, 100 shot is reliable on our cars. I ran the 100 shot for some time before I moved on to turbo. Of course, later, I did the Nitrous/Turbo combo, I wouldn't do that unless you got a spare motor. LOL.
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RE: n2o and S/C
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Very interesting... so where do the problems come into play with N20 then? If I wanted to go N20, without the possibility of problems what would I need to do, and is it bad having it start from 1st?
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There are definitely dangers with running nitrous, but there are certainly safeguards in place. A 50-shot of nitrous has helped bring my 1/4 mile time down to 13.7 seconds @103 mph. (Intake, tune, exhaust, gears and limited weight reduction too.) MM & FF magazine could only muster a 13.8 with a Shelby GT-H, so that makes me feel pretty good.
ZEX hasa switch that ties in with your throttle position sensor and automatically activates the nitrous without me pressing any buttons. There is alsoa controller (Active Fuel Controller) that helps prevent rich and lean conditions. I also use a traction control window switch which allows you to select which gears the nitrous will spray in-- and helps avoid intake backfire and detonation.
My confidence has been built because the shop that installed my nitrous system feels that on stock internals, most engines and transmissions can handle up to a 75 shot with no major issues-- given the fact that the engine is in good shape to begin with.
There are definitely dangers with running nitrous, but there are certainly safeguards in place. A 50-shot of nitrous has helped bring my 1/4 mile time down to 13.7 seconds @103 mph. (Intake, tune, exhaust, gears and limited weight reduction too.) MM & FF magazine could only muster a 13.8 with a Shelby GT-H, so that makes me feel pretty good.
ZEX hasa switch that ties in with your throttle position sensor and automatically activates the nitrous without me pressing any buttons. There is alsoa controller (Active Fuel Controller) that helps prevent rich and lean conditions. I also use a traction control window switch which allows you to select which gears the nitrous will spray in-- and helps avoid intake backfire and detonation.
My confidence has been built because the shop that installed my nitrous system feels that on stock internals, most engines and transmissions can handle up to a 75 shot with no major issues-- given the fact that the engine is in good shape to begin with.
It seems that every horror story about nitrous is magnified 100 fold for some reason. If just follow the directions and heed the safeguards and safe practices problems are very rare. I hope to have my Zex kit instal done this week or next, so my only personal experience w/ N2O is in older carburated Mustangs, etc.
See if this helps expalin why the power of nitrous has must be treated with respect.
A nitrous system is a power adder just as turbo's and S/C's are, and has the same concerns regarding cylinder pressure, detonation, traction component stress, etc. Heat as far as the charge temp is not a concern as it has cooling properties.
A fully charged, ready to rock nitrous system makes full power when activated. It has no lag, no spool up time, no RPM dependencies. It delivers its full power potential as soon as it is engaged. Imagine now if that was posibile with any turbo or s/c you bolted on. You would have the same concerns as to when you engaged the turbo or s/c. A turbo or s/c that is slow to spool up and reach full power would be a good thing on street tires and a stock engine, less desirable as you move up to a full race set up. You want full power only when you can use it. On top of that you don't want full power when your engine can't handle the loads placed on it.
Now with a turbo or s/c getting that kind of instant power pretty much depends on high rpm launches and overdriven impeler speeds. Not to mention a bit of experienced planning on the set up.
With a nitrous system you don't need any special technical skills or even additional parts to easily go over the limit of how much available power you present to the engine and at what rpm.
So if you stay within the capabilities of what your motor can handle and when it can handle it you will be fine. Get gready with the power, or lack the skills to follow the installation directions properly and you will have trouble.
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RE: n2o and S/C
My issue is that I am happy with my 93 race tune CAI... but I want a little bit more power. Not sure if I need enough to justify a S/C. N20 sounds good, but I have never been in a car with, or even dealt with it. My N20 experience is at best from the "Fast and Furious" movies 
Just trying to figure out which would be the best route to go, N20 or S/C... or just stick with what I have.
Just trying to figure out which would be the best route to go, N20 or S/C... or just stick with what I have.
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RE: n2o and S/C
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My issue is that I am happy with my 93 race tune CAI... but I want a little bit more power. Not sure if I need enough to justify a S/C. N20 sounds good, but I have never been in a car with, or even dealt with it. My N20 experience is at best from the "Fast and Furious" movies
Just trying to figure out which would be the best route to go, N20 or S/C... or just stick with what I have.
My issue is that I am happy with my 93 race tune CAI... but I want a little bit more power. Not sure if I need enough to justify a S/C. N20 sounds good, but I have never been in a car with, or even dealt with it. My N20 experience is at best from the "Fast and Furious" movies
Just trying to figure out which would be the best route to go, N20 or S/C... or just stick with what I have.
Yea, a litle bit more power, and a little more after that, and that...
You're going to have to decide just what is enough and what is practical for you. The nice thing about nitrous is the ease of installing and removing the system. The negative is if you find you can't live with out the added power you are going to be filling bottles all the time and that will get expensive and is a pain. On the other hand you can run the stock tune if want and need to worry about it as long as you stay with a small shot of 50 or 75 HP.