Notices
V6 S197 General Discussion This section is for technical discussions pertaining specifically to the V6 variation of the 2005 and newer Ford Mustang.

Crate engine on a V6?!?!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-01-2009, 03:43 PM
  #1  
cvidal07
Thread Starter
 
cvidal07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Shreveport, LA
Posts: 46
Question Crate engine on a V6?!?!

So for the same price of a supercharger i could also get a crate engine with more HP than just a supercharger. Has this ever been done before or should i stop dreaming?
K.M.P has a few to choose from. please tell me what you think?
http://www.kmpaccessories.com/engines.html
cvidal07 is offline  
Old 03-01-2009, 04:03 PM
  #2  
wolfpup
bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay
 
wolfpup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: LONG BEACH, CA
Posts: 964
Default

this has been done before but theres more to it than just the engine itself and its more expensive than ANY supercharger application for the V6
wolfpup is offline  
Old 03-01-2009, 05:21 PM
  #3  
basketballord
4th Gear Member
 
basketballord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Big Sky Country
Posts: 1,079
Default

Ya all the work to get it fabbed up to all the stock components is an expensive process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsKvrfyULhU

It would be a cool project though.

Another option is to drop in a 4.6, that would be less work than a crate engine and a lot easier to setup.
basketballord is offline  
Old 03-01-2009, 06:59 PM
  #4  
Legion5
5th Gear Member
 
Legion5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Near Wash. DC Posts: 13,541
Posts: 2,497
Default

Yeah the installation is kind of 3 grand, not to mention hooking up a computer if you don't get an expensive modern engine.

Plus no you won't be making more horsepower. The STOCK non-intercooled hi-po x-charger that costs the exact same (including instalation) as the cheapest engine there and makes 345hp. The gt-40 engine makes 340 hp.

I've been considering an engine swap myself to break 700 horsepower but it's just too expensive. Once you tack on a supercharger and installation it easily goes to $20,000. If you want 400 hp it costs $10,000. This is especially true if you don't want to add 600 lbs to the front by using an iron block.

Last edited by Legion5; 03-01-2009 at 07:03 PM.
Legion5 is offline  
Old 03-03-2009, 05:29 AM
  #5  
cvz_finezt
2nd Gear Member
 
cvz_finezt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 269
Default

u have to remember that if u live in a state that has emissions testing, chances are that ur not going to pass with an older pushrod engine. i say pick ur favorite mod engine and have at it. www.buyfordracing.com sell hopped up trey valves with beefier cams. right now ir's going for $5,900. but i seen it dip down to $5,100, and ad the price of the computer control pack, which is about $1,100. but to tell u the truth it would be moch more cost effective to go F/I. cuz with an engine swap, ur going to spend $10,000 easy. even if it is a simple swap. new tranny, unless u have an auto, the just the bellhousing. driveshaft, rear end, suspension. and a bunch of little odds and ends, . it just really adds up fast. not u can have the same power for half the price with a supercharger or a tubro set up. and ur coast to own will still be very resonible. just sum food for thought. but if it's just going to be a track car, i say go all out!! but it better make u some money if your going to do that.
cvz_finezt is offline  
Old 03-03-2009, 01:08 PM
  #6  
cvidal07
Thread Starter
 
cvidal07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Shreveport, LA
Posts: 46
Default

Ya i think ill go with a xcharger. Ive heard they have good gains. Put then again i may go with a procharger. lol Anyways thanks for the input. I guess on my income that crate engine is a nice dream that ill let go. haha maybe in ten years ill dream again. haha
cvidal07 is offline  
Old 03-04-2009, 02:12 PM
  #7  
cvz_finezt
2nd Gear Member
 
cvz_finezt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 269
Default

go with the X, a centri, or a turbo. sum gears, then bolt up a suspension kit and it wll make for an effective, yet very streetible car.
cvz_finezt is offline  
Old 03-04-2009, 05:39 PM
  #8  
ABQstang89
3rd Gear Member
 
ABQstang89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: megan fox's dreams
Posts: 643
Default

I looked into this fairly deeply when i first got my 6. I have somewhat gone away from this idea because of all the extra work needed to be done. It will end up being far more expensive then just getting a s/c. However I have not given up the task but rather started at other points. Maybe you should consider getting a rear end, DS, and Cai/tune to prep before you make your final decision. These mods will help you get closer to an engine swap and still work with s/c if you decide to go away from it. Well except the cai/tune which is just to hold you over.
ABQstang89 is offline  
Old 03-04-2009, 09:58 PM
  #9  
.boB
3rd Gear Member
 
.boB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location:
Posts: 939
Default

First, it will not be emissions legal. Ever. In any state. A swap like that will violate federal emissions regs. The only way you might be able to make it legal would be to run it on pure alcohol.

The Windsor engines are narrower than the 4.0's and 4.6's, but they're taller. You'll need to modify the hood.

Wiring, computer, front accessories, exhaust, trans, motor mounts, etc are all differant. I don't know that there are any swap kits or parts. So you'll have to fab all that stuff.

You'll destroy any resale value. Nobody will want to buy that frankenstein creation.

The 302W weighs a bit more than what you have. You'll need to upgrade front suspension components and brakes to match the weight.

Finally, unless you went with a well built stroker, you won't get much performance advantage, if any.
.boB is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Nick Oliver
V6 S197 General Discussion
6
10-17-2018 04:22 AM
AmericanMuscle4.6GT
2005-2014 Mustangs
7
11-10-2015 02:06 PM
rksnow1
Motor Swap Section
0
09-14-2015 08:46 PM
TfcCDR
V6 (1994-2004) Mustangs
1
09-14-2015 12:08 PM
Pyrate Dave
5.0L (1979-1995) Mustang
8
09-10-2015 07:30 PM



Quick Reply: Crate engine on a V6?!?!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:58 AM.