wayne613

Yeah, know it's held great for you and others, but I still trust it about as much as my congressman. ABS was 4 brackets as well.

Still requires perfection really, and I'm still waiting to see what outcome more than a couple years has on staying adhered down the road.

markkk

So in your opinion, If i buy this louver, clean the back window thoroughly, put 3m tape on with time, then add the louver with intended perfection, should I have any problems? When I install this item I don't intend to rush it. And have you heard of anyone loosing there louvers like the other guy stated?

Nuke

Louvers and other add-ons that use 3M tape WILL come off if not installed per the instructions. The biggest mistakes people made IMO are these:

1. planning: layout and be **** about marking your bracket locations. once they're attached, you need to get new ones if you screw them up. KNOW what the install entails before permanently attaching anything.
2. surface prep: you can't use regular 70% rubbing alcohol. Either 90+% or buy a solvent made for surface preping. It's easy to find at most any auto parts place.
3. surface temperature: I believe the instructions call for between 60 and 80 degrees F. Check the instructions. This includes cure time to the best of your ability.
4. cure time: do not drive the vehicle for 24 hours. Vibration WILL affect curing.

If I recall, my instructions recommended putting a bead of silicone around the bracket to keep water from getting underneath but it wasn't necessary. If done properly, 3M tape will hold up just fine to rain, car washing, etc.

markkk

These seem like some great instructions, my only concern is that the website say they only come with 3m tape, what about the brackets? or are you just talking about the louver itself?

Nuke

My A-H louvers have 4 (or was it 6; 3 per side in lieu of 2? It's been awhile and the car is at home in the garage) flat black aluminum brackets that attach to the window corners with 3M tape. Two of the brackets on each side have a threaded stud that protrudes thru the louver frame (and the top bracket has a U-shaped clip that the louver simply slips under so it's probably 6 brackets unless the top one had both the clip AND the stud). There are 4 black thumb nuts that hold the louver to the brackets.

I recall seeing installation instructions on either the A-H website or on the AM website. Can't recall. Getting old(er) sux...

markkk

Alright sounds good, so with the options that this website provides, is textured ABS better, without paint?
It shows aluminum louvers in the picture, but i don't want them to be plastic looking when i get them

Nuke

1. I can't say that I care for ABS, period
2. The ones that you linked to in your original post SOUND as if they attach in such a way that you can't remove them. At least with the A-H, I can take my louvers off to clean the window by removing the 4 thumbscrews.

I think you can find something better.

markkk

I think the picture is showing the aluminum louvers when actually they are the ABS plastic looking ones. Louvers like those sell for abott 450 bucks

Bait12

EDIT: Nevermind. I didn't realize there was a second page to this thread. I just answered my own question by reading more. Sorry.

wayne613

Check here. Both versions are listed there, and I´d be more inclined to get from AM. Were I to roll the dice again, I´d spend the extra $150 for the aluminium one. Install pdf for that one here.

If you look closely you can see the 2 on the passenger-side that are screwed down.

You do the prep work that Nuke states, the 4 like 2 inch by 4 inch plates with a bolt are put down, then the louver itself is put on and held onto the plate with that bolt with the close-ended nuts tightened by hand.