you know what really sux. I got rid of my 05 due to this problem and got an 07 vert. Now that is leaking in to the trunk and is in the shop today for the 3rd time. 4 times in 18k miles and i can start lemmon law procedures. I just cant take this crap from ford anymore. If i get out of this car i really dont think i will get another one.


adam

 

I've not posted on this in a while, but since I've been quite outspoken about it and have kept everyone posted on my experience.....

After all my dealership fixes for this (I think I went 4 times - each covering a different water entry point it seems) and feeling moderately confident that the leak was fixed finally, I recently had the extra heavy duty downpour to really test it out.

I moved my car out from the garage into the driveway to catch a seriously nasty thunderstorm overnight.... more than enough to leak without driving... more than enough to fill the door so that driving it would cause splashing resulting in leak..... I drove the car the following morning a good 30 miles or more in continuing (but moderate by now) rain... and still no leak.

I should be totally convinced now that my leak has been repaired, but because of the excessive experience associated with all this..... I guess I will always have a touch of weariness. I can enjoy the car much better now for sure, but there will always be a bit of sour after taste from not only my experiences with the leak, but from seeing so much evidence in this forum alone that there really was some irresponsible manufacturing and poor accountability on Ford's behalf regarding just this issue alone.

I still dig the car, but much like a new Windows operating system release.... On the next re-designed Mustang release that catches my eye, I'll have to resist a purchase and wait to see what bugs exist andif they get ironed out.

 

my personal belief is that ford knows exactly where
water is entering the vehicle.

it must be very labor intensive and that is why ford has not
released a tsb yet. they're trying to write up a procedure, that
even a caveman can do.

hopefully i'm wrong and we will all live happily ever after, with
dry mustangs.....

 

my personal belief is that ford knows exactly where
water is entering the vehicle.


i agree completely

 

It is a weird leak. I live in the Vancouver area...it RAINS ALL THE TIME... and it took seven months and two days of longer drives in wicked, pounding rain for my leak to show up. Myvert has only 4,000 km's on it and is a daily driver kept outside in the driveway. The inside of the windshield is alway foggy when I start her up and takes a couple seconds to defog...too much moisture inside is my diagnosis.
I wonder how many Mustangs are leakingon a low level, not enough to soak carpets

 

There is no question about this. It's not rocket science.

I agree that the right "fix" is labor instensive. In fact, many have said that "the" leak or "some" leaks cannot be fixed until the right front fender is taken off the vehicle [hood too of course].

My speculation is that the "fix" is so labor intensive [4 to 8 hours per vehicle ???] and costly, that Ford is avoiding the issuance of a TSB on the problem. They're rolling the dice, and in the process screwing the very people who spent their hard earned money on Ford products.

Let's face it. There must be dozens of keen members on this forum alone that could figure out the leak problem given a couple of days in a well equipped garage with a vehicle lift. Ford on the other hand been working on a TSB since Dec. 23rd [as it was posted on this very forum]; and they were certainly aware of leak problems months before that.Who believes that Ford and its fleet of engineers needs to study the problem this long for a TSB? Other than some Ford employees maybe.

 

Well I just got my stang back after 2 weeks. I have to say that the service at my dealership has been wonderful. They kept me informed on the cars progress throughout. I told them about the forum, and the manager even called me in to bring it up on their computer. At first they tried, and tried to reproduce the leak with no success. They didn't try to sluff the car back to me. The manager, and teck knew that it leaked somewhere, and they were bound, and determined to find it. He said that the forum was helpful. They noticed that the firewall-rocker panel seam, and cowl seals came up a lot. They concentrated on those areas, and found that they could get it to leak in those spots. Especially if they rode it on the road after it rained. They sealed the seam, and replaced the cowl with the newer part revision .It got tested in the recent sub tropical storm we had, and seems to be fixed now. The manager realizes the difficulties that the people have been having in getting it fixed the first time. He told me that if it leaks again they will be determined to get to the root of the problem. It's a shame that to many of the service depts for Ford couldn't be that polite, and cooperative. There is supposed to be more rain this weekend, so I'll test it out good.

 

The communication between Ford and its dealer network is simply amazing.

On this thread alone, here is what we have seen:

#1 Ford and its customer service hotline telling owners that they are not aware of any leak issues with the SN197.

#2 Dealers who told owners thatthey have never been aware of a SN197 that leaked.

#3 Dealers who told ownersthat a TSB was in the works. One member heresaid they saw a copy of it layingon [or in] their vehicle.

#3 And dealers like the one above [recent] that had to be pointed to this fourm or others like it to help them fix or attempt to fix the problem.

It's certainly comforting to know Ford is on top of things.

 

Well, the ugly "leak issue" finally raised its ugly head last night. While parked in front of a friends house during a horrendous thunderstorm (which resulted in a monsoon downpour for at least 10 minutes) I noticed water dripping from under the dash on the passenger side! The car was actually facing "down hill" at the time, which differs from most of the other situations where other members had their vehicle facing uphill. I was able to pull the rubber mat under the leak and stack some towels under the dripping water. The car has only around 3000 miles left on the warranty and, considering the problems most members have had in having a dealer correct the problem, I've decided to tackle the leak myself. I've looked at the TSB concerning the problem and I'm going to pull the cowl cover off today to take a look. In the 16 1/2 months I've owned the car, this is the first time the problem has occurred. I've driven it in MANY heavy rainstorms before, but always moving. This is the first time it was exposed to such a torrential rainfall for that period of time, while parked in that position. Just wanted to add my GT to the list of "leakers". [:@]

 

Hi, I'm new member to mustang forums, Thank you for the info about the leak. We just bought a new 07 convertible and had rain all day yesterday and last night. What a great day to buy a convertible, in the pouring rain, anyway. I found this site this morning. So I went out and looked and touched the area shown in all the photos, at this point it felt dry. But I will keep an eye on it. Are there any other areas of leakage that I should look for? Or can anyone point me to any other important pages of problems or interestI should read?
Thank you!!!