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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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There's an identical grommet on the drivers side as well, wouldn't it be leaking as well? Is that picture right side up?

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Ok, I'm hopeful I may have sealed the water leak. I removed the passenger side inner wheel well behind the tire. There is a pair of grommets there where a big wiring harness and the antenna come through the firewall (see the picture). Yesterday, I laid inside the car while the wife sprayed water on the right side of the car and it looked like water was coming in there. So today I spread clear silicone around the grommets, waited for it to cure and sprayed water on it again. So far, no water inside.

I'm curious though, how many people have noticed this problem only when parking their car facing uphill. I think it would lend some credence to my theory if it didn't happen when the car was parked facing downhill, as the water would run away from the grommet on the firewall.

Also, if anyone else decides to try this method, let me know if it works for you too.





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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Hi all,I too HAD this water leak problem on my 05 mustang.So i went looking for the origin of the problem instead of relying on the dealer (not having any luck finding it.I found it after removing the trim pieces from the passanger side(they just pull off)and peeling back the carpet and turning up the foam underlay to reveal the floof.right where the floor meets the side panel there is a seam that is covered with a ehite sealer of somekind.BUT if you look close you will see a spot where the sealer missed on the side panel.THATS where your water is coming from.and you can only see it leak if you open the hood and pour water down the wiper vent under the hood.It leaksthen,anyway i put silacone all around the little hole and stuffed as much IN the hole and left it to dry for a couple days (along with the carpet and foam insulation.And poured gallons of water down these vents and NO water leak.I hope this helps all of you with the water problem.
Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Can you post any pics?

I am having my second go-around with a dealer on this.

Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: MdnytRider

Ok, I'm hopeful I may have sealed the water leak. I removed the passenger side inner wheel well behind the tire. There is a pair of grommets there where a big wiring harness and the antenna come through the firewall (see the picture). Yesterday, I laid inside the car while the wife sprayed water on the right side of the car and it looked like water was coming in there. So today I spread clear silicone around the grommets, waited for it to cure and sprayed water on it again. So far, no water inside.

I'm curious though, how many people have noticed this problem only when parking their car facing uphill. I think it would lend some credence to my theory if it didn't happen when the car was parked facing downhill, as the water would run away from the grommet on the firewall.

Also, if anyone else decides to try this method, let me know if it works for you too.





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I just got my car back from the dealership for this issue (and a rattle in the center console which indeed they fixed by stuffing insulation into the console.... love not having that rattle now!).

I will post up the exact words from my service printout, but they did indeed refer to the grommet in the firewall as being "misaligned". They either re-alligned it or installed a new one correctly. They did say that thay saw water entering there during testing - not a lot, but then I am sure they did not test it for very long. I have not had an opportunity to put it to the test myself, but I will comment when I do and if it stopped the leak. I feel reasonably confident though that this is the place where the water gets into the passenger side inside and I was happy to see that they actually found an issue that some of you have found on your own. Much better than saying that they could not replicate it or that it was from a clogged drain plug or something.


As for pics, I posted a pic in another thread here on this, but here it is again (I also printed this photo and took it with me to my dealership - they loved having an accurate photo of where the water is showing up so that they could work backwards from there in finding the source). They did not think I was a nut or anything for bringing my own photo.

Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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ORIGINAL: MdnytRider

Ok, I'm hopeful I may have sealed the water leak. I removed the passenger side inner wheel well behind the tire. There is a pair of grommets there where a big wiring harness and the antenna come through the firewall (see the picture). Yesterday, I laid inside the car while the wife sprayed water on the right side of the car and it looked like water was coming in there. So today I spread clear silicone around the grommets, waited for it to cure and sprayed water on it again. So far, no water inside.

I'm curious though, how many people have noticed this problem only when parking their car facing uphill. I think it would lend some credence to my theory if it didn't happen when the car was parked facing downhill, as the water would run away from the grommet on the firewall.
Also, if anyone else decides to try this method, let me know if it works for you too.


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i had a similar problem with my '03, it would leak whenever i parked the car facing down-hill but not up-hill, turns out it was coming in through the antenna wire grommet
Old Dec 5, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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Subscribed, wanted to stay up to speed on this.
Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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I thought I had this problem in my 07, but it was ill founded. My car has been dry since I've had it. The original problem with my 07 had to do with my interior treatment and the water people tracked into my car.

The dealer said the smell problem I had was with the clutch. My first 500 miles on the car were literally ALL highway in 5th. When I came back to Detroit, I did a whole lot of shifting for an evening in the rain. The next morning, the smell was not mildew from water, but hot clutch in oil :-)
Old Dec 5, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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guys, I live in Phoenix, AZ, where it rains once a year. NO, really.

Am I to understand that it only happens when parking downhill?? do I need to worry about this??


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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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I've had my carpet get wet from just driving through high water and through heavy rain (on perfectly level roads) in addition to having it get wet while parked several hours in moderate rain on a slight incline (with nose up).


And - as promised - here is the quote from my service receipt pertaining to the warrantly leak work I just had done Nov. 29th:

WIRING HARNESS BOOT MISALLIGNED AT BULK HEAD ALLOWING WATER INTRUSION UNDER HEAVY RAIN RE-SEAT BOOT DRY FLOOR AND CARPETING AND RETEST OK

Welper, that's it folks. I still have not tested it for myself. I am fairly busy much of the time and so I may not run water on it for hours..... but I very interested in test driving it through some puddles and heavy rain. If it does rain next when I am at home, I will go move the car from the garage out into the rain on the same slight incline that produced water in the carpet before. Once again, I'll post the results as soon as I know. For right now, I am only "hoping" that was really the fix. Fingers crossed!
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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12/10/2006

First steady rain conditions since my dealership's leak "fix" of re-alligning the wiring harness boot and here are the official results:


I was in a moderate, steady rain long enough to eat breakfast and shop at Sam's. No major puddles, no parking on an incline even.

Needless to say I am PO'd! I'm going to show up at the dealership at 7am tomorrow morning and rent a car. They had better be prepared to pay for this car rental considering my service rep clearly stated last time "I am NOT going to let your car leave here with a leak in it".

This is really a hassle and is making me sick. I've gone from love this car to disappointed with this car to love this car to disappointed to love and now back to disappointed. If the leak gets fixed, I'll love it again provided nothing else rears its ugly head. I've had it long enough to work out most the kinks (including the fuel pump TSB), so maybe this is the last of the BS??? Please?????!!!!



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