Best Headers for 05 GT
03-13-2007, 06:09 AM
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RE: Best Headers for 05 GT
Bestbang for the buckfor $1K,CAI with tune and underdrive pullies. I did a Steeda CAI w/91 octane tune (live in southern California), Steeda underdrive pullies and Steeda charge motion plates, installed by JBA. got 312WRHP from my 07 GT 5sp on JBA's dyno. CARB certified and ready to go. Average stock RWHP is about 273. Nice bang for the buck. I also nixed the shorty header as the power incresewas to small for their cost.
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03-13-2007, 09:51 AM
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RE: Best Headers for 05 GT
Personally, I don't think there is a point to installing shorties. The price is just way too high for the small gain.
Remrats, I suggest suspension, suspension, suspension!! Adding more HP is useless if you can't put what you've got to the ground...and from the mods in your sig I'm willing to bet that you've got traction or wheelspin problems. Spinnin' ain't winnin, as some people say.
Something to keep in mind: Most smog inspections won't even notice if you have headers so long as you have cats. It's very, very, few areas that will actually catch you....so I say that if you want headers, go for it. But, technically they ARE illegal.
I have longtubes on my car....and I've already passed an inspection with them on there. This was a legit inspection--not "my buddy" doing it, or anything like that.
Remrats, I suggest suspension, suspension, suspension!! Adding more HP is useless if you can't put what you've got to the ground...and from the mods in your sig I'm willing to bet that you've got traction or wheelspin problems. Spinnin' ain't winnin, as some people say.
Something to keep in mind: Most smog inspections won't even notice if you have headers so long as you have cats. It's very, very, few areas that will actually catch you....so I say that if you want headers, go for it. But, technically they ARE illegal.
I have longtubes on my car....and I've already passed an inspection with them on there. This was a legit inspection--not "my buddy" doing it, or anything like that.
03-13-2007, 01:21 PM
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RE: Best Headers for 05 GT
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Personally, I don't think there is a point to installing shorties. The price is just way too high for the small gain.
Remrats, I suggest suspension, suspension, suspension!! Adding more HP is useless if you can't put what you've got to the ground...and from the mods in your sig I'm willing to bet that you've got traction or wheelspin problems. Spinnin' ain't winnin, as some people say.
Something to keep in mind: Most smog inspections won't even notice if you have headers so long as you have cats. It's very, very, few areas that will actually catch you....so I say that if you want headers, go for it. But, technically they ARE illegal.
I have longtubes on my car....and I've already passed an inspection with them on there. This was a legit inspection--not "my buddy" doing it, or anything like that.
Personally, I don't think there is a point to installing shorties. The price is just way too high for the small gain.
Remrats, I suggest suspension, suspension, suspension!! Adding more HP is useless if you can't put what you've got to the ground...and from the mods in your sig I'm willing to bet that you've got traction or wheelspin problems. Spinnin' ain't winnin, as some people say.
Something to keep in mind: Most smog inspections won't even notice if you have headers so long as you have cats. It's very, very, few areas that will actually catch you....so I say that if you want headers, go for it. But, technically they ARE illegal.
I have longtubes on my car....and I've already passed an inspection with them on there. This was a legit inspection--not "my buddy" doing it, or anything like that.
03-13-2007, 02:06 PM
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RE: Best Headers for 05 GT
That depends on what parts. I sold my old H-pipe and everything back from there for quite a lot of money on Ebay. The V6 guys buy GT parts so they can put duals on their cars.
...but nobody is going to buy manifolds.
...but nobody is going to buy manifolds.
03-13-2007, 02:40 PM
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RE: Best Headers for 05 GT
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That depends on what parts. I sold my old H-pipe and everything back from there for quite a lot of money on Ebay. The V6 guys buy GT parts so they can put duals on their cars.
...but nobody is going to buy manifolds.
That depends on what parts. I sold my old H-pipe and everything back from there for quite a lot of money on Ebay. The V6 guys buy GT parts so they can put duals on their cars.
...but nobody is going to buy manifolds.
03-15-2007, 12:54 AM
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RE: Best Headers for 05 GT
ORIGINAL: dseid2
Bestbang for the buckfor $1K,CAI with tune and underdrive pullies. I did a Steeda CAI w/91 octane tune (live in southern California), Steeda underdrive pullies and Steeda charge motion plates, installed by JBA. got 312WRHP from my 07 GT 5sp on JBA's dyno. CARB certified and ready to go. Average stock RWHP is about 273. Nice bang for the buck. I also nixed the shorty header as the power incresewas to small for their cost.
dseid2
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Bestbang for the buckfor $1K,CAI with tune and underdrive pullies. I did a Steeda CAI w/91 octane tune (live in southern California), Steeda underdrive pullies and Steeda charge motion plates, installed by JBA. got 312WRHP from my 07 GT 5sp on JBA's dyno. CARB certified and ready to go. Average stock RWHP is about 273. Nice bang for the buck. I also nixed the shorty header as the power incresewas to small for their cost.
dseid2
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03-15-2007, 08:47 PM
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RE: Best Headers for 05 GT
I don't know where Crazy AI gets his numbers but you can get Shorty Headers at Brenspeed for your '05 for $379.53 with FREE shipping.
Even at 5HP (which I bet is more) less than 4 bills and add an x pipe is well worth the cash!
Look on e-bay and you can save even more...as low as $269.99 for shorty headers
Even at 5HP (which I bet is more) less than 4 bills and add an x pipe is well worth the cash!
Look on e-bay and you can save even more...as low as $269.99 for shorty headers
03-15-2007, 08:48 PM
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RE: Best Headers for 05 GT
I don't know where Crazy AI gets his numbers but you can get Shorty Headers at Brenspeed for your '05 for $379.53 with FREE shipping.
Even at 5HP (which I bet is more) less than 4 bills and add an x pipe is well worth the cash!
Look on e-bay and you can save even more...as low as $269.99 for shorty headers
Even at 5HP (which I bet is more) less than 4 bills and add an x pipe is well worth the cash!
Look on e-bay and you can save even more...as low as $269.99 for shorty headers
03-15-2007, 09:04 PM
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RE: Best Headers for 05 GT
Sure, you can get shorties for around $380..(or even less as you mentioned). But you have to look at the whole picture. Most of the really cheap shorty kits don't have gaskets, bolts, etc...so you have to buy those too. And, then it's time for the install. If you can do it yourself, that's one thing. But most people won't do that. Then you're looking at anywhere from 4 hours (if you are very lucky) and up for labor. The Ford book puts headers at 6 hours if I remember correctly. At typical rates, that's $400 or more. It is not unreasonable to pay $600-800 to buy shorties and have them installed. If you are also buying a new midpipe then the package can easily hit $1000.
There are numerous dyno comparisons of shorties before and after at various places. Do a forum search and you can find several of them. But 5 HP peak is about right. The best I have personally witnessed on the Dyno was8 HP peak, which included an X-pipe (Even more $$$).
Personally I don't think that's even close to being worth it. You could get CMCP deletes instead and pick up the same (if notmore) HP for $90 in parts and less than an hour of labor....or do UDPs. $200 (ish)and an hour of labor for a similar gain. Want another option? Get an offroad midpipe or one with high-flow cats....again, a much cheaper install, making for a much better deal in the end.
In my opinion there's little point in the shorties. If you are going to pay a few hundred $$$ for labor (or if you are going to spend several hours of your own time to do the work yourself), why not install LTs instead? The labor is the same, but the HP gains are much greater.
There are numerous dyno comparisons of shorties before and after at various places. Do a forum search and you can find several of them. But 5 HP peak is about right. The best I have personally witnessed on the Dyno was8 HP peak, which included an X-pipe (Even more $$$).
Personally I don't think that's even close to being worth it. You could get CMCP deletes instead and pick up the same (if notmore) HP for $90 in parts and less than an hour of labor....or do UDPs. $200 (ish)and an hour of labor for a similar gain. Want another option? Get an offroad midpipe or one with high-flow cats....again, a much cheaper install, making for a much better deal in the end.
In my opinion there's little point in the shorties. If you are going to pay a few hundred $$$ for labor (or if you are going to spend several hours of your own time to do the work yourself), why not install LTs instead? The labor is the same, but the HP gains are much greater.