Octane makes a huge difference when dealing with FI cars. They would probably be pushing 550+ if they used 100 octane and pushed the tune. Vortech reports realistic numbers, not numbers that are an exception. That would be false advertising or would reflect poorly on their products if the average joe couldn't come close to what they say you can get.

 

I laugh when I hear that, 500hp out of a bone stock motor is pretty damn great considering. It's all about perspective, if you're someone who wants 600hp out of this engine then you'll think the internals "aren't the greatest" but if you're average gear head and I am, you'll believe that Ford did a damn fine job considering the Government crap they had to go through to make the emissions requirement and allow for head-room for those of us who modify their cars.

Had they gone with forged internals cost goes up, making emissions harder and we have something else to complain about. All in all I'm happy that with just a supercharger and drag radials I have gone from 13.6 bone stock to 12.3and possibly a 12.0 God willing. 1.3 seconds ain't bad. But yes, my tuner went a pretty safe route, there is more in the tune he could wring out of it, but won't until I get the after-cooler.

 

Dave,

Thanks! The 275/35/18's on my rear fanblades look funny, very short compared to the front tires but in the quest for traction on a budget it's the only route the wife agreed to at this point. She is on board with other changes later on but is asking me to wait, it ain't easy!

I got a 1.76 short time but that was only because GLD prepped the track for the TV show that was there, they never put down that much VHT on T&T nights. Good luck hitting the 12.0!

 

Agreed 100%, they have to use pump gas while I can either mix race gas or go all race gas and pump up the timing.

 

You laugh when you hear it but you'll cry when it goes BOOM. Never said they had to be the 'Top of the line' but the ones they use could have been better and the cost would have not Sky rocketed IMHO

 

really not trying to get in this pissing match you have going...but based on what??? many cars are pushing in excess of 500BHP (mine included) on stock internals....so for a car that was out of the factory at about 300BHP..thats a 200BHP increase and the ones that went boom were tune errors?? running too lean etc....unless you can show me one that wasn't,...so how does that make the stock internals garbage when you can change it by 200BHP >>>just curious what facts you have for the statement...again...not trying to argue...

 

All cars are different....from the factory they could be 235 rwhp or 250, all different. Id say you are pretty damn dead on with what you have and i would be extremely happy. Are you really questioning "1" hp to the crank? C'mon. Seriously though, i wouldnt doubt vortech maybe inflates it a bit too for big numbers. I am not bashing vortech, im planning on doing one myself, just saying its advertising.

 

Not in a pissing match here but I am talking RWHP. I have been told by 3 different tuners not to push my RWHP above 450 because of the internals. I NEVER said they were GARBAGE, I just said they could have used better ones so there would be no worries when going FI.

 

ok, my apologies....you did not say they were garbage. I have heard the same on the RWHP part as well....but the post you were refering to and disagreeing with was Viking396 and he was talking bhp of 500+ and not rwhp...so I guess we can just chalk up your comment of boom up to you were not aware he was talking bhp.....

 

Chalk one up to honost mistake. My apologies