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Old 06-16-2007, 02:34 AM   #21  
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Let's see........if Ford could get someone to pay $60K for a 4.0L V6 Mustang (like BMW gets for the M3) then they could afford to throw $15-20K at the engine alone to make sure it puts out 420hp.

We have more horsepower in our GT's than any other car at that price point. Ford could easily crank out more power from the 4.6.......but at what cost? The Mustang has to remain affordable.....that's the formula that works.

Don't feel bad about your 4.0L six or your 4.6L eight not having the output of a 4.0L BMW.......if you want to spend the kind of money that BWM spends then you can easily build a 400-450hp n/a engine. But I'm pretty sure most of us would rather just throw $5-6K at FI of some sort and pocket the other $10K.
Our 2.5 litre focus makes 225hp minimum. And would kill a V6 in a straight line and around corners. Its just different cars for different markets. It really is a shame they dont bring the Euro models out there as im sure they would sell well. Better build quality, Faster, Fun. Etc the only problem is it would reflect in the price where a top end focus here comes in at nearly $40,000 there. Which is a serious problem out there. But when you have a 300hp 4wd focus its gonna be fun! Especially when it can lift a rear wheel off the ground going round corners at speed not just in the wet but when its soaking to the point theres standing water on the road.

Still id rather drive a mustang as it justhas more road presence and its an Icon. the focus no matter how much engineering goes into it is just another hatchback.
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:47 AM   #22  
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Let's see........if Ford could get someone to pay $60K for a 4.0L V6 Mustang (like BMW gets for the M3) then they could afford to throw $15-20K at the engine alone to make sure it puts out 420hp.

We have more horsepower in our GT's than any other car at that price point. Ford could easily crank out more power from the 4.6.......but at what cost? The Mustang has to remain affordable.....that's the formula that works.

Don't feel bad about your 4.0L six or your 4.6L eight not having the output of a 4.0L BMW.......if you want to spend the kind of money that BWM spends then you can easily build a 400-450hp n/a engine. But I'm pretty sure most of us would rather just throw $5-6K at FI of some sort and pocket the other $10K.
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I mean look at the Ferrari 430, thats a 4.3 making almost 500hp, so a ton of people laugh at the 7.0L in the Z06 but since the ferrari engine prolly cost just as much as a z06; i think its fair to say are muscle cars have a lot of bang for the buck.
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:57 AM   #23  
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so why do the 4.0 stangs only push2 10hp? bmw doubls that. wtf im so confused
Because the V6 stang costs as much as the new M3 V8 engine only, thats why lol
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Old 06-16-2007, 04:01 AM   #24  
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Besides i still respect the I6 of the past M3, making 343 hp thats 57.16 hp per cilinder. The new V8 making 420 hp is 52.5 hp per cilinder. Though the V8 weights even less than the I6.
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