Using a hydraulic floor jack
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From: Orlando FL
RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
OK, last post on that thread.
The LIABILITY is the reason why they don't show lifting the car via the pumpkin in the manual or anywhere else.
Not the F***king bending of the housing/axles[:@].
We live in a panzy society and pretty soon, there will be be advices on how to take a p#ss without hurting yourself.
Do you morons, really think the sun visor stickers save lives, or the door ajar chime
.
I LOVE IT WHEN PHUCKING AMATEURS HERE, TELL PROS HOW TO DO IT.
To the OP, you have enough material here, to choose how you're gonna lift your car.
It's up to you, either way, you won't hurt it.
Good luck.
The LIABILITY is the reason why they don't show lifting the car via the pumpkin in the manual or anywhere else.
Not the F***king bending of the housing/axles[:@].
We live in a panzy society and pretty soon, there will be be advices on how to take a p#ss without hurting yourself.
Do you morons, really think the sun visor stickers save lives, or the door ajar chime
.I LOVE IT WHEN PHUCKING AMATEURS HERE, TELL PROS HOW TO DO IT
.To the OP, you have enough material here, to choose how you're gonna lift your car.
It's up to you, either way, you won't hurt it.
Good luck.
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 315
From: Michigan
RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
ORIGINAL: pascal
OK, last post on that thread.
The LIABILITY is the reason why they don't show lifting the car via the pumpkin in the manual or anywhere else.
Not the F***king bending of the housing/axles[:@].
We live in a panzy society and pretty soon, there will be be advices on how to take a p#ss without hurting yourself.
Do you morons, really think the sun visor stickers save lives, or the door ajar chime.
I LOVE IT WHEN PHUCKING AMATEURS HERE, TELL PROS HOW TO DO IT.
To the OP, you have enough material here, to choose how you're gonna lift your car.
It's up to you, either way, you won't hurt it.
Good luck.
OK, last post on that thread.
The LIABILITY is the reason why they don't show lifting the car via the pumpkin in the manual or anywhere else.
Not the F***king bending of the housing/axles[:@].
We live in a panzy society and pretty soon, there will be be advices on how to take a p#ss without hurting yourself.
Do you morons, really think the sun visor stickers save lives, or the door ajar chime
.I LOVE IT WHEN PHUCKING AMATEURS HERE, TELL PROS HOW TO DO IT
.To the OP, you have enough material here, to choose how you're gonna lift your car.
It's up to you, either way, you won't hurt it.
Good luck.
Here is a little test you can try. Should be no problem for a pro such as you to rig up. Get a piece of angle iron, drill a couple holes at each end and place a couple chunks of threaded rod through the holes and a nut on either side of the angle iron hole. Now, attach this "tool" to the top of the differential. Lower the treaded rods until they just come into contact with the outer ends of the axel tubes and lock in place with the nuts. That is, there should be no clearence between the rods and the axel tubes and no tension on the angle iron. Then, jack the car up from the usual differential point and tell us all what you see at the end of the rods where they were in contact with the axel tubes.
You may be a proffessional, but that does notmake you an expert.
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RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
ORIGINAL: cavediver
I'm looking at it as I write this. It is in the "Pre-delivery Passenger Car and Light Truck 100-06A-1" dated 7/2006. On the second page, 100-06A-2, is the diagram for the Mustang. The diagram is number is "AY0365-A" and is labeled "Vehicle Lift Points-Mustang". It clearly shows the lift points which includes the outboard axle tubes but does not show lifting from the differential. It also shows the four frame locations (not the ones in the owners manual on the pinch welds for tire changing), the two lower control arms and the cross member. Altogether there are nine lift points shown and once again, these are not the ones in the owners manual for tire changing. These are the lift points for working under the car (with jack stands of course).
I'm sure someone on here as this in electronic format and could post the diagram so everyone could see it.
ORIGINAL: rjg426
My 06 Mustang Factory Workshop Manual only shows the factory hole area (same as where the factory jack goes) for the appropriate jacking and lifting points. It does not show the axle tubes, cross members or anything else (which I thought was strange).
My 06 Mustang Factory Workshop Manual only shows the factory hole area (same as where the factory jack goes) for the appropriate jacking and lifting points. It does not show the axle tubes, cross members or anything else (which I thought was strange).
I'm sure someone on here as this in electronic format and could post the diagram so everyone could see it.
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 578
From: Eagle, Idaho
RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
ORIGINAL: rjg426
Wow, my book (dated Sept 2005) only has Jacking and Lifting under the first section, Service Information, section 100-04. It's the blue-colored Workshop Manual for 2006 Mustang. Interesting.
ORIGINAL: cavediver
I'm looking at it as I write this. It is in the "Pre-delivery Passenger Car and Light Truck 100-06A-1" dated 7/2006. On the second page, 100-06A-2, is the diagram for the Mustang. The diagram is number is "AY0365-A" and is labeled "Vehicle Lift Points-Mustang". It clearly shows the lift points which includes the outboard axle tubes but does not show lifting from the differential. It also shows the four frame locations (not the ones in the owners manual on the pinch welds for tire changing), the two lower control arms and the cross member. Altogether there are nine lift points shown and once again, these are not the ones in the owners manual for tire changing. These are the lift points for working under the car (with jack stands of course).
I'm sure someone on here as this in electronic format and could post the diagram so everyone could see it.
ORIGINAL: rjg426
My 06 Mustang Factory Workshop Manual only shows the factory hole area (same as where the factory jack goes) for the appropriate jacking and lifting points. It does not show the axle tubes, cross members or anything else (which I thought was strange).
My 06 Mustang Factory Workshop Manual only shows the factory hole area (same as where the factory jack goes) for the appropriate jacking and lifting points. It does not show the axle tubes, cross members or anything else (which I thought was strange).
I'm sure someone on here as this in electronic format and could post the diagram so everyone could see it.
2nd Gear Member
Joined: Jul 2007
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RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
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Okay Mr. Pro. From one proffesional to another. I challenge you to prove your point, prove me wrong.
Here is a little test you can try. Should be no problem for a pro such as you to rig up. Get a piece of angle iron, drill a couple holes at each end and place a couple chunks of threaded rod through the holes and a nut on either side of the angle iron hole. Now, attach this "tool" to the top of the differential. Lower the treaded rods until they just come into contact with the outer ends of the axel tubes and lock in place with the nuts. That is, there should be no clearence between the rods and the axel tubes and no tension on the angle iron. Then, jack the car up from the usual differential point and tell us all what you see at the end of the rods where they were in contact with the axel tubes.
You may be a proffessional, but that does notmake you an expert.
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i for one would really like to see somebody do this......just to end the argument....and i'm not taking sides, i'd really like to know if i'm screwing it up lifting on the pumpkin
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RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
ORIGINAL: cavediver
It looks like the one I have is printed a year later and they must have added that section with the lift points. I wish I had an electronic version and I would post the diagram here.
ORIGINAL: rjg426
Wow, my book (dated Sept 2005) only has Jacking and Lifting under the first section, Service Information, section 100-04. It's the blue-colored Workshop Manual for 2006 Mustang. Interesting.
ORIGINAL: cavediver
I'm looking at it as I write this. It is in the "Pre-delivery Passenger Car and Light Truck 100-06A-1" dated 7/2006. On the second page, 100-06A-2, is the diagram for the Mustang. The diagram is number is "AY0365-A" and is labeled "Vehicle Lift Points-Mustang". It clearly shows the lift points which includes the outboard axle tubes but does not show lifting from the differential. It also shows the four frame locations (not the ones in the owners manual on the pinch welds for tire changing), the two lower control arms and the cross member. Altogether there are nine lift points shown and once again, these are not the ones in the owners manual for tire changing. These are the lift points for working under the car (with jack stands of course).
I'm sure someone on here as this in electronic format and could post the diagram so everyone could see it.
ORIGINAL: rjg426
My 06 Mustang Factory Workshop Manual only shows the factory hole area (same as where the factory jack goes) for the appropriate jacking and lifting points. It does not show the axle tubes, cross members or anything else (which I thought was strange).
My 06 Mustang Factory Workshop Manual only shows the factory hole area (same as where the factory jack goes) for the appropriate jacking and lifting points. It does not show the axle tubes, cross members or anything else (which I thought was strange).
I'm sure someone on here as this in electronic format and could post the diagram so everyone could see it.
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,792
From: Sterling Heights, MI
RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
If the experts don't agree who do we believe? 
I still use the pumpkin to raise the rear as my photos in the above link showed. No problems so I have to lean toward Pascal's observations. I do think Ford's caveot if for safeties sake otherwise they would say it could bend the tubes. Or at least say that damage could occur.
I still use the pumpkin to raise the rear as my photos in the above link showed. No problems so I have to lean toward Pascal's observations. I do think Ford's caveot if for safeties sake otherwise they would say it could bend the tubes. Or at least say that damage could occur.
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RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
ORIGINAL: wingman75
If the experts don't agree who do we believe?
I still use the pumpkin to raise the rear as my photos in the above link showed. No problems so I have to lean toward Pascal's observations. I do think Ford's caveot if for safeties sake otherwise they would say it could bend the tubes. Or at least say that damage could occur.
If the experts don't agree who do we believe?
I still use the pumpkin to raise the rear as my photos in the above link showed. No problems so I have to lean toward Pascal's observations. I do think Ford's caveot if for safeties sake otherwise they would say it could bend the tubes. Or at least say that damage could occur.
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Louisiana
RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
Riddle me this: The rearend is mounted on elastomer bushings, you have a LSD and you go around a sharp bend, maybe hit a big bump in the process. How much bending monment did you just put on the axle housings and differental housing. Somebody was talking about thousands of a inch and bearing wear.
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Posts: 3,792
From: Sterling Heights, MI
RE: Using a hydraulic floor jack
ORIGINAL: rojizostang
i apologize for not giving you credit for usig your pics...........great job, by the way.
ORIGINAL: wingman75
If the experts don't agree who do we believe?
I still use the pumpkin to raise the rear as my photos in the above link showed. No problems so I have to lean toward Pascal's observations. I do think Ford's caveot if for safeties sake otherwise they would say it could bend the tubes. Or at least say that damage could occur.
If the experts don't agree who do we believe?
I still use the pumpkin to raise the rear as my photos in the above link showed. No problems so I have to lean toward Pascal's observations. I do think Ford's caveot if for safeties sake otherwise they would say it could bend the tubes. Or at least say that damage could occur.