Installation Costs for the following parts..?
#1
Installation Costs for the following parts..?
Hey guys, Looking to get some more power out of my baby....
Thinking of installing the following:
1.) 4.10 GEARS- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
2.) MEZIERE Electric fuel pump w/ Steeda CRANK Pulley- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
3.) Steeda Charge motion delete Plates- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
4.) Which suspension parts to get to improve launch ???
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!
Thinking of installing the following:
1.) 4.10 GEARS- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
2.) MEZIERE Electric fuel pump w/ Steeda CRANK Pulley- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
3.) Steeda Charge motion delete Plates- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
4.) Which suspension parts to get to improve launch ???
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!
#3
I paid $350 for My 3:73 gear installation which included all parts but the gears. And I went with BMR rear suspension components. They are easy to install yourself. Both of these upgrades will give you a noticable difference.
#4
Hey guys, Looking to get some more power out of my baby....
Thinking of installing the following:
1.) 4.10 GEARS- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
2.) MEZIERE Electric fuel pump w/ Steeda CRANK Pulley- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
3.) Steeda Charge motion delete Plates- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
4.) Which suspension parts to get to improve launch ???
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!
Thinking of installing the following:
1.) 4.10 GEARS- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
2.) MEZIERE Electric fuel pump w/ Steeda CRANK Pulley- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
3.) Steeda Charge motion delete Plates- Whats the average install price and what hp and 1/4 mile gains?
4.) Which suspension parts to get to improve launch ???
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!
2. no significant HP gains IMO but this is from another forum and if you mean UDP's for the Steeda crank pulley
Top 5 Questions About Underdrive Pulleys
1. "Do underdrive pulleys really deliver more horse power?"
Every experience we have with underdriving engine accessories shows that yes underdrive pulleys do deliver more horse power by freeing up power lost to parasitic drag. The amount you will realize depends on your car and the accessories you are driving, a car with alternator, water pump, power steering, A/C and a smog pump will see a larger HP gain then a car with alternator and water pump only. Dollar for dollar underdrive pulleys are one of the best value for HP gain on the market.
But don't take our word alone on this, every magazine we have seen who have tested under drive pulleys has show a HP gain, some as high as 12.5 HP. Click here to see how 5.0 Mustang & Super Ford "Bolted-on" an easy 15HP for less than $100! and all in under one hour.
2. "But won't underdrive pulleys cause a charging problem?"
Again that depends on your car and how and when you drive. Automotive manufacturers build a certain amount of extra capacity into their cars for situation of high demand like driving on a cold rainy night with the lights on plus whippers and defrosters going. An older car with a less then optimum charging system and a small weak battery may have charging problems with underdrive pulleys and some cars with monster audio installations require higher that normal electrical demands. A well maintained auto should have no problem at all. Sometimes raising the idle by 100 RPM is all it takes to bring the charging rate back up to normal.
If electrical charging is an issue with your particular application March Performance has a smaller alternator pulley available to increase alternator output but to still allow a HP gain from underdriving the other accessories.
3. "Won't underdrive pulleys cause a engine cooling problem?"
Again that depends on your car and how and when you drive. Putting underdrive pulleys on cars with already minimal cooling capacity could conceivably push the car into overheating but our experience is that 99.9% of the cars out there has enough reserve cooling capacity to use our pulleys. Some user find that the simple installation of a cooler thermostat is all it takes to bring the temperature back into normal range.
Underdive Pulleys can in some cases cure cooling problems. With racing applications cavitation can be a problem at high rpms. When a pump cavitates, it actually spins too fast to push coolant, Coolant must also stay in the radiator long enough to lose heat before returning to the motor so you can actually move coolant too fast. Both these issues can be solved by using underdrive pulleys.
But If low speed cruising is your thing then March Performance line of High Water Flow Ratios pulleys may be just what you need to prevent overheating in those situations.
4."Underdrive pulleys sound good but won't an electric water pump set-up give me even more HP?"
Yes it is conceivable an electric water pump can give you more HP than a underdrive pulleys set BUT there are some issues you should consider before you make that commitment. Your HP gain with an electric pump may not be as much as you think, in a recent test Hot Rod Magazine ran our performance ratios pulleys on a small block Chevy (alternator, water pump only) and to their surprise our pulleys only made 1 HP less then a electric water pump set-up. You should also consider that electric kits flow even less water then a underdrive pulley kit and that could cause cooling problems.
Most electric WP are made for racing applications and not designed to be run for long periods of time, and if that electric motor gives out you are stuck with no water flow at all unlike a standard water pump which may start to leak and make noise but can allow you to limp home.
The electric pump does draw power from your charging system and so you can't underdrive your alternator, you must have adequate electrical power just to drive the water pump.
1. "Do underdrive pulleys really deliver more horse power?"
Every experience we have with underdriving engine accessories shows that yes underdrive pulleys do deliver more horse power by freeing up power lost to parasitic drag. The amount you will realize depends on your car and the accessories you are driving, a car with alternator, water pump, power steering, A/C and a smog pump will see a larger HP gain then a car with alternator and water pump only. Dollar for dollar underdrive pulleys are one of the best value for HP gain on the market.
But don't take our word alone on this, every magazine we have seen who have tested under drive pulleys has show a HP gain, some as high as 12.5 HP. Click here to see how 5.0 Mustang & Super Ford "Bolted-on" an easy 15HP for less than $100! and all in under one hour.
2. "But won't underdrive pulleys cause a charging problem?"
Again that depends on your car and how and when you drive. Automotive manufacturers build a certain amount of extra capacity into their cars for situation of high demand like driving on a cold rainy night with the lights on plus whippers and defrosters going. An older car with a less then optimum charging system and a small weak battery may have charging problems with underdrive pulleys and some cars with monster audio installations require higher that normal electrical demands. A well maintained auto should have no problem at all. Sometimes raising the idle by 100 RPM is all it takes to bring the charging rate back up to normal.
If electrical charging is an issue with your particular application March Performance has a smaller alternator pulley available to increase alternator output but to still allow a HP gain from underdriving the other accessories.
3. "Won't underdrive pulleys cause a engine cooling problem?"
Again that depends on your car and how and when you drive. Putting underdrive pulleys on cars with already minimal cooling capacity could conceivably push the car into overheating but our experience is that 99.9% of the cars out there has enough reserve cooling capacity to use our pulleys. Some user find that the simple installation of a cooler thermostat is all it takes to bring the temperature back into normal range.
Underdive Pulleys can in some cases cure cooling problems. With racing applications cavitation can be a problem at high rpms. When a pump cavitates, it actually spins too fast to push coolant, Coolant must also stay in the radiator long enough to lose heat before returning to the motor so you can actually move coolant too fast. Both these issues can be solved by using underdrive pulleys.
But If low speed cruising is your thing then March Performance line of High Water Flow Ratios pulleys may be just what you need to prevent overheating in those situations.
4."Underdrive pulleys sound good but won't an electric water pump set-up give me even more HP?"
Yes it is conceivable an electric water pump can give you more HP than a underdrive pulleys set BUT there are some issues you should consider before you make that commitment. Your HP gain with an electric pump may not be as much as you think, in a recent test Hot Rod Magazine ran our performance ratios pulleys on a small block Chevy (alternator, water pump only) and to their surprise our pulleys only made 1 HP less then a electric water pump set-up. You should also consider that electric kits flow even less water then a underdrive pulley kit and that could cause cooling problems.
Most electric WP are made for racing applications and not designed to be run for long periods of time, and if that electric motor gives out you are stuck with no water flow at all unlike a standard water pump which may start to leak and make noise but can allow you to limp home.
The electric pump does draw power from your charging system and so you can't underdrive your alternator, you must have adequate electrical power just to drive the water pump.
4. Start with your LCA's and add from there..(UCA, shocks, springs-progressive rate, and PHB)- part form BMR, Spohn, Steeda, and Roush will be a great improvement over stock.
Overall I would get the 4.10's, CAI and tune, and UDP's to start and forget the rest....best bang for the buck with the above mentioned IMO....
#5
i have bmr lca's and i haven't had any wheel hop or major tire 'slippage' since they were installed; i'd definitely add those to your list, especially if you are planning to add new gears and a cai/tune
Last edited by Xeno; 03-10-2009 at 10:31 AM.
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