Couple questions about the 05-09 stang
01-07-2010, 09:48 AM
#11
It'll take some serious internal work.
With the mods you list you'd be pushing 300-310 RWHP. Add an aluminum DS to your list. These cars are light compared to the Camaro and Challenger and the power-to-weight ratio makes the Stang look pretty good. Plus there are some pretty good weight loss programs that help that.
Don't leave the '07's or even '05 and '06 out of the equation. The '05-'09 are the same.
With the mods you list you'd be pushing 300-310 RWHP. Add an aluminum DS to your list. These cars are light compared to the Camaro and Challenger and the power-to-weight ratio makes the Stang look pretty good. Plus there are some pretty good weight loss programs that help that.
Don't leave the '07's or even '05 and '06 out of the equation. The '05-'09 are the same.
01-07-2010, 09:51 AM
#12
I'd be happy with 340 to the rear wheels though. 400 isnt really a set marker... I dont think I'd be happy with just a supercharger by its self. I may do that down the road but I'd rather give the stang a little more power & have her soundin good and have some eye candy on it instead of just having a stock car with a SC. Doesn't SC'ing shorten the life of the engine?
01-07-2010, 01:22 PM
#13
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the only engine difference that i know about is the change to the bolt-on charge motion plates to the built in ones. anything you do can shorten the life of your engine. doesent mean it will. theres nothing wrong or bad about supercharging. keep the power below 450whp to be safe. and a good tune is golden. by the way, where in north carolina are you at? i should be in that area end of jan begining of feb.
01-07-2010, 04:16 PM
#14
the only engine difference that i know about is the change to the bolt-on charge motion plates to the built in ones. anything you do can shorten the life of your engine. doesent mean it will. theres nothing wrong or bad about supercharging. keep the power below 450whp to be safe. and a good tune is golden. by the way, where in north carolina are you at? i should be in that area end of jan begining of feb.
Im leaving tuesday for basic training though so I wont be back in NC until June-July
01-07-2010, 04:31 PM
#15
the only engine difference that i know about is the change to the bolt-on charge motion plates to the built in ones. anything you do can shorten the life of your engine. doesent mean it will. theres nothing wrong or bad about supercharging. keep the power below 450whp to be safe. and a good tune is golden. by the way, where in north carolina are you at? i should be in that area end of jan begining of feb.
What they changed with the charge motion plates... what does that mean as far as reliability goes?
01-07-2010, 04:58 PM
#16
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No. Mechanically, forced induction doesn't put a significant added amount of strain on the engine. In fact, boost pressure in the cylinder can help combat problems like rod stretch at higher RPMS. Forced induction engines typically have shoter life spans for a couple reasons. One being that people don't tune them properly. The second reason being that people with forced induction cars typically drive them harder than those without.
Saying an engine will live a shorter life with a SC or turbo is inaccurate though, as the determining factor in the engine's life usually comes down to the user, and what they do with the engine.
Saying an engine will live a shorter life with a SC or turbo is inaccurate though, as the determining factor in the engine's life usually comes down to the user, and what they do with the engine.
01-08-2010, 04:46 PM
#17
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I've posted before about planning on getting a 08 in a few months, over a 09/'10... I know its a few months out but I cant help but look at the stangs and parts and dream about having it/modding it lol, so forgive me for posting so much about the car that I dont own yet.
I had a few questions about prices... As I posted before a 08 and 09 are about 4-5K difference with roughly the same miles... 08 being around 20K and the 09 being around 25K...which they are both close to book value.. but there are A LOT of 2010 GT's for 30-32K. For 5 more grand, I could get a used 2010 with less than 400 miles on it... vs a 09 with 10,000+ This makes me feel like I could get that 08 for around 17K instead of 20, easy... right? The reason Im going with 08 over a 09 or '10 for the 5K difference, well, for 1, its 5K and about $120 in payment difference. 08 after my down pay. about 240 a month or less. 09, is about 360 a month, plus $200 insurance.
My mod list for it would:
Performance:
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda UDP's
Steeda CAI with SCT tune (87 tune most likely, depends)
Pypes LT with shorty X
Ford Racing K-Springs
Tokico D-spec's
Eye Candy:
1/4 window louvers
Honeycomb trunk panel
Read window louvers (maybe)
Painted Side Mirror Covers
Shorty 8" antenna
Side Scoops
SLP LM Axle Back's
I plan on paying for most of those mods by selling my civic lol. Anyways... I've heard the GT's are about 260 to the wheels stock, correct? What would be an accurate guess at what those mod's would put the car at?
I had a few questions about prices... As I posted before a 08 and 09 are about 4-5K difference with roughly the same miles... 08 being around 20K and the 09 being around 25K...which they are both close to book value.. but there are A LOT of 2010 GT's for 30-32K. For 5 more grand, I could get a used 2010 with less than 400 miles on it... vs a 09 with 10,000+ This makes me feel like I could get that 08 for around 17K instead of 20, easy... right? The reason Im going with 08 over a 09 or '10 for the 5K difference, well, for 1, its 5K and about $120 in payment difference. 08 after my down pay. about 240 a month or less. 09, is about 360 a month, plus $200 insurance.
My mod list for it would:
Performance:
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda UDP's
Steeda CAI with SCT tune (87 tune most likely, depends)
Pypes LT with shorty X
Ford Racing K-Springs
Tokico D-spec's
Eye Candy:
1/4 window louvers
Honeycomb trunk panel
Read window louvers (maybe)
Painted Side Mirror Covers
Shorty 8" antenna
Side Scoops
SLP LM Axle Back's
I plan on paying for most of those mods by selling my civic lol. Anyways... I've heard the GT's are about 260 to the wheels stock, correct? What would be an accurate guess at what those mod's would put the car at?
01-08-2010, 08:39 PM
#18
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IMO, if you have the money, you might want to wait for the 5.0L. the 2010 are the same car with a new hood, lights, upgrade int with the same motor that pretty much has an aftermarket air intake and a new tune (an aftermarket tune/intake combo like I have will give you more power though).
Like mentioned in a previous post, these cars are lighter compared to other pony cars (even though there still a boat), so it really comes down to how fast you want the car. A stock one should run mid 13s while most basic bolt on like Intake/Tune will put you in the low 13s. Add some tires to that combo and that 12's.
Really, you should just buy a low mile 05/06 (unless your heart set on the body of 2010) and save up for the 5.0L when you want to trade in.
Like mentioned in a previous post, these cars are lighter compared to other pony cars (even though there still a boat), so it really comes down to how fast you want the car. A stock one should run mid 13s while most basic bolt on like Intake/Tune will put you in the low 13s. Add some tires to that combo and that 12's.
Really, you should just buy a low mile 05/06 (unless your heart set on the body of 2010) and save up for the 5.0L when you want to trade in.
01-08-2010, 09:25 PM
#19
So if you guys could get a good price on a 06 over a 08, you'd take it?
I remember hearing about a water leak in the earlier stangs, 05-06 mainly where the floorboards got soaked somehow after it raining.
I remember hearing about a water leak in the earlier stangs, 05-06 mainly where the floorboards got soaked somehow after it raining.
01-08-2010, 09:26 PM
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