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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 02:40 AM
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Question The immaculate S197?

So. I'm wondering what the steps would need to be in order to build up an S197 to OUTPERFORM the 1000-hp UBB Mustang or exotic cars such as the Bugatti Veyron or Lamborghini Murcielago. I imagine a 5.4L Aluminum Crate Block twin-turbo would do the job as far as the engine goes? What about the intake, suspension, handling, driveshaft, axle, computer, wheel/tire, brake, exhaust, weight savings, and exterior modifications? I know that there are different modifications depending on what kind performance you're looking for, but...could you do all this WHILE MAINTAINING THE CAR AS STREET-FRIENDLY? I imagine undertaking this would be a 100k+ project, but I'm bored, so I figured I'd start a hypothetical thread on it just for kicks.

Again, I want everyone's opinion on:
-Engine
-F/I Setup
-Engine Mods
-Intake
-Driveshaft
-Axles
-Transmission
-Exhaust
-Suspension
-Wheel/Tire
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-Exterior(?)

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 02:56 AM
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well if you lived in cali then the second you drop in that turbo youd be non street legal.

...i wonder if in 15-20 years with more hybrids around and electric cars if theyl lighten up on the C.A.R.B. stuff over here...
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:03 AM
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well if you lived in cali then the second you drop in that turbo youd be non street legal.

...i wonder if in 15-20 years with more hybrids around and electric cars if theyl lighten up on the C.A.R.B. stuff over here...
That's why I'm proud to be a Texan...they aren't as hard on the car-mod laws here. What I really meant is making this frankenstein tame enough to drive on the streets. I don't think we need to get in the illegality of this car due to the democrats, LOL.
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:09 AM
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I imagine there would have to be some kind of computer program that shuts down a couple of the cylinders when not in use to make it a comfortable street driver. I understand that Bugatti did it by connecting two V8s at the crankshaft and it only utilized one of the engines until a certain RPM.
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:10 AM
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well i used to have this article saved, i cant find it anymore, but it was about a guy who took a 427 and just made it into a 591 and he was pulling 900 tq and 800 hp without a turbo or blower, and that was legal. i would link it but it was on my old laptop which crashed and the hard drive burnt (thanks vista) i think youd be spending more on making sure the mustang could even hold together rather then ways to quicken it after that much displacment.
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Beast
well i used to have this article saved, i cant find it anymore, but it was about a guy who took a 427 and just made it into a 591 and he was pulling 900 tq and 800 hp without a turbo or blower, and that was legal. i would link it but it was on my old laptop which crashed and the hard drive burnt (thanks vista) i think youd be spending more on making sure the mustang could even hold together rather then ways to quicken it after that much displacment.
I know you said your hard drive burnt, but are you sure? My husband's HP laptop barely 2 years old crashed with all of our business stuff on it. We got a USB Hard Drive Enclosure to get all the information off of the old hard drive. Then you just plug it into your pc and retrieve it all. Good thing it worked!

OK, back on topic....I think with a lot of money anything is possible with the S197.
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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Your question is the main article in MM&FF magazine. Blow By Racing in Florida built one that will beat just about everything and get 20 mpg so they say.
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Suggest that you research the current Bugatti design to understand what's involved in making a 1000 hp vehicle into a daily driver. (Note: Its biggest design obstacle was devising a system that had sufficient capacity to adequately cool the engine at max power while retaining an aerodynamic body shape.)
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Beast
well i used to have this article saved, i cant find it anymore, but it was about a guy who took a 427 and just made it into a 591 and he was pulling 900 tq and 800 hp without a turbo or blower, and that was legal. i would link it but it was on my old laptop which crashed and the hard drive burnt (thanks vista) i think youd be spending more on making sure the mustang could even hold together rather then ways to quicken it after that much displacment.
This motor would probably get the job done, plus a fat 91mm turbo or larger that spools up a bit higher in the power band. It would likely have to be an automatic just to even be able to handle the damn thing, full cage inside so you don't kill yourself, IRS, a completely welded chassis, basically make the thing the ultimate road race car with the ultimate top end capability... even so, the things you'd have to do to make it safe past 200mph would be insanity lol... this question really has me wondering the answers that we can come up with, I'm very curious
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Just go this route. LOL

http://culturegarage.com/article/mus...italian_mullet



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