Does 2011 have wheel hop issues??
5th Gear Member
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,404
From: Texas
Hi I bought a 2011 5.0 Saturday night .
Has brembo pkg ,255s and 3.73 rear w/h 6sp manual
Learned on my second light on the way home i am disgusted. Nothing but wheel hop , never even got into the gas. Like it was shaking the wheels off every time
Raining for last 3 days, axle hop at any gear any speed as long as tires are breaking loose, cornres strait line ect. So i spent how much for a dry weather car...Expect it to hop dry. i never imigined id have to Stuff and drift the test drive car, beat the hell out of it to know theres no hop . For god sakes , i waited 25 years for what ---wheel hop.
Back to the drawing board FORD. no wonder everyone hates Fords
Horn not working on delevery, now check engine light , and heavy wheel hop . im very sorry i bought the car.
Id like to insist the wheel hop get fixed to my satisfaction.
Dont buy a mustang 2011 GT if you hate wheel hop . i do hate the issue . I want the car replaced with an appropriate one
So whats the deal guys , do i have to buy a dam Ferrari or a Porche to have a real road car??????
Has brembo pkg ,255s and 3.73 rear w/h 6sp manual
Learned on my second light on the way home i am disgusted. Nothing but wheel hop , never even got into the gas. Like it was shaking the wheels off every time
Raining for last 3 days, axle hop at any gear any speed as long as tires are breaking loose, cornres strait line ect. So i spent how much for a dry weather car...Expect it to hop dry. i never imigined id have to Stuff and drift the test drive car, beat the hell out of it to know theres no hop . For god sakes , i waited 25 years for what ---wheel hop.
Back to the drawing board FORD. no wonder everyone hates Fords
Horn not working on delevery, now check engine light , and heavy wheel hop . im very sorry i bought the car.
Id like to insist the wheel hop get fixed to my satisfaction.
Dont buy a mustang 2011 GT if you hate wheel hop . i do hate the issue . I want the car replaced with an appropriate one
So whats the deal guys , do i have to buy a dam Ferrari or a Porche to have a real road car??????
Also, you can buy aftermarket upper and lower control arms; and I believe these come with relocation brackets to maintain proper geometry if you lower the car. I also believe some kits come with bushings as well.
To improve other handling characteristics, you can also get panhard bars and anti-sway bars too.
All of the aftermarket stuff is still way cheaper than buying a Ferrari or a Porche.
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Joined: Oct 2006
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From: MO
What was the temp outside? Those tires are only rated for 40degrees and above.
I experienced no wheelhop at all with temps above 50. The colder it is outside, though, the more wheelhop with these tires.
I experienced no wheelhop at all with temps above 50. The colder it is outside, though, the more wheelhop with these tires.
Hi I bought a 2011 5.0 Saturday night .
Has brembo pkg ,255s and 3.73 rear w/h 6sp manual
Learned on my second light on the way home i am disgusted. Nothing but wheel hop , never even got into the gas. Like it was shaking the wheels off every time
Raining for last 3 days, axle hop at any gear any speed as long as tires are breaking loose, cornres strait line ect. So i spent how much for a dry weather car...Expect it to hop dry. i never imigined id have to Stuff and drift the test drive car, beat the hell out of it to know theres no hop . For god sakes , i waited 25 years for what ---wheel hop.
Back to the drawing board FORD. no wonder everyone hates Fords
Horn not working on delevery, now check engine light , and heavy wheel hop . im very sorry i bought the car.
Id have kept the 67 coupe No wheel hop with 20 dollar lowering blocks
Does this car fall into lemon law?
Id like to insist the wheel hop get fixed to my satisfaction.
Dont buy a mustang 2011 GT if you hate wheel hop . i do hate the issue . I want the car replaced with an appropriate one
So whats the deal guys , do i have to buy a dam Ferrari or a Porche to have a real road car??????
thumbs down for 2011 , could have been a better car.
looking for a trade of any year
Has brembo pkg ,255s and 3.73 rear w/h 6sp manual
Learned on my second light on the way home i am disgusted. Nothing but wheel hop , never even got into the gas. Like it was shaking the wheels off every time
Raining for last 3 days, axle hop at any gear any speed as long as tires are breaking loose, cornres strait line ect. So i spent how much for a dry weather car...Expect it to hop dry. i never imigined id have to Stuff and drift the test drive car, beat the hell out of it to know theres no hop . For god sakes , i waited 25 years for what ---wheel hop.
Back to the drawing board FORD. no wonder everyone hates Fords
Horn not working on delevery, now check engine light , and heavy wheel hop . im very sorry i bought the car.
Id have kept the 67 coupe No wheel hop with 20 dollar lowering blocks
Does this car fall into lemon law?
Id like to insist the wheel hop get fixed to my satisfaction.
Dont buy a mustang 2011 GT if you hate wheel hop . i do hate the issue . I want the car replaced with an appropriate one
So whats the deal guys , do i have to buy a dam Ferrari or a Porche to have a real road car??????
thumbs down for 2011 , could have been a better car.
looking for a trade of any year
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 79
From: WA
Frankly Grey2011GT, I don't think you know what you're doing. Yes, the design of the rear axle will result in wheel hop, if the car is abused. You're fighting the traction control and the system dynamics. Learn to drive the car within the physical limits of the system, or change the system. You're expectations of Ford and of the $30k car are unreasonable. If you want something different, you should have considered that before you bought it. I'm certain the dealer would be happy to buy the car back from you, at significant cost to you. But as usual, the cost of stupidity is quite high.
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Originally Posted by Grey2011GT
Hi I bought a 2011 5.0 Saturday night .
Originally Posted by Grey2011GT
Has brembo pkg ,255s and 3.73 rear w/h 6sp manual
Learned on my second light on the way home i am disgusted. Nothing but wheel hop , never even got into the gas. Like it was shaking the wheels off every time
You also have much deeper gearing than what most people normally ran on the street back in the day. That 3.66:1 first gear with 3.73's is about like having 4.56's in the older car with the wide-ratio 4-speed (2.78:1 1st). That includes the difference in tire diameter (it'd be more like 4.88's with same-diameter tires now vs then).
A link suspension does behave a bit differently from leaf springs, just as there are differences among the various leaf spring configurations (4-leaf, 4 1/2 leaf, 5 leaf, asymmetrical, etc.).
In the short run anyway, you may just have to learn how to drive it differently. As in, be smoother with your foot and hand movements rather than a stomp, stab, and abruptly steer technique.
As mentioned, temperature and tire compound has quite a bit to do with it, and so does wet vs dry. Google "mu-slip curve" for more information about how tires behave than you probably want to know.
Norm
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From: Texas
I guess if busted out some paper and a pencil and practiced crunching the formulas, I would get a full grasp of it. At least that is how I learned physics.
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Joined: Oct 2010
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From: CA
Frankly Grey2011GT, I don't think you know what you're doing. Yes, the design of the rear axle will result in wheel hop, if the car is abused. You're fighting the traction control and the system dynamics. Learn to drive the car within the physical limits of the system, or change the system. You're expectations of Ford and of the $30k car are unreasonable. If you want something different, you should have considered that before you bought it. I'm certain the dealer would be happy to buy the car back from you, at significant cost to you. But as usual, the cost of stupidity is quite high.
It's been raining non stop in SoCal for three plus days. Give the car a chance in dry weather. What are you trying to prove by burying the throttle in wet weather anyway? Shoot my HRC Odyssey will wheel hop the front wheels in the rain.
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Joined: Dec 2010
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From: Ca
yes the 2011 still hops.
Thanks now I know I am not full of S&^* or crazy...
My 2011 GT with 3.73 - 19" VR Pirrellis,brembo pkg hops whenever nursed into wheelspin either out of a turn or strait.
Im really dissapointed they havent worked that out. I spent a buttload on that car.
After all this time- dont the Ford design guys read the forum or get customer input?
Thanks now I know I am not full of S&^* or crazy...
My 2011 GT with 3.73 - 19" VR Pirrellis,brembo pkg hops whenever nursed into wheelspin either out of a turn or strait.
Im really dissapointed they havent worked that out. I spent a buttload on that car.
After all this time- dont the Ford design guys read the forum or get customer input?
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Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,193
From: Montaner
Doesn't surprise me at all that the 2011 has wheel hop. AFAIK the suspension really isn't all that different from the 05-10 models especially at the fundamental level.
The easiest fix will be a set of lower control arms with stiffer bushings. Ditto on the upper arm.
The easiest fix will be a set of lower control arms with stiffer bushings. Ditto on the upper arm.