Understand that Ford has to consider a wider range of driving than just what it might take to quiet down a case of wheel hop. It's not that Ford's engineering and test crew couldn't make it less of an issue if they were given free rein to do whatever it took. It's that they aren't really permitted to, due at least in part to corporate standards on things that are only indirectly related.

For instance, I seriously doubt that your LCA relo brackets would pass Ford's handling requirements, particularly in a stock (i.e. unlowered) car. Rear axle roll steer that's in the vehicle oversteer direction is extremely frowned upon at the OE level, and that's just one of the possible downsides of skewing the suspension tuning too far toward drag racing and launch behavior. This one, you're probably OK with, and you've more or less learned how to drive around that deficiency. As a hard-cornering enthusiast I'm not OK with it, at least not in most current amounts of LCA pivot lowering.

Other things, like rear suspension bushing and engine/transmission mount stiffnesses, may not meet NVH requirements. I'm sure that you're OK with a little more NVH, and I might be too. But not the entire market that Ford hopes to sell some sort of Mustang to.

At least one car model is currently using engine torque management and some very specific tire properties to eliminate wheel hop. Would you really prefer to have engine torque managed for you with no way around the electronic nanny, than learn when to drive it a little easier on your own? I certainly wouldn't.


Norm

 

I don't completely disagree with you Norm, but there are many people that have significantly reduced hop with just substituting the GT500 LCA's. That seems like a good place to start for Ford. And personally, I didn't notice a NVH increase with my mods; or at least not enough to overcome the benefits of no wheel hop.

My LCA relocation brackets are for sure a personal choice to eliminate the "rocking horse" effect of the car. I don't think they have a huge effect on the wheel hop issues.

I go back to my CTS-V for solution to wheel hop. All it took was to change 1/2 shaft diameters to eliminate the wheel hop. Cadillac FINALLY did this on their own for the 2009 V while the rest of us 04-07 owners had to do it ourselves.

The point I am trying to make is, there is NO reason that after 5+ years of a known problem, Ford can't fix the problem on their own or at least significantly reduce it. Just no excuse for that IMO. Would everyone be OK with a bad clutch problem and the solution for it was just to drive it easier.... I highly doubt it.

 

Wow, talk about hand-holding driving! "Let momma take you by the hand while little baby drives and S***s his diapers!"

Electronic nanny is right.

 

I missed a "few" posts in this thread it seems. Mainly seems that the car is "hopping" during hard acceleration in a corner. But that the T/C is still turned on. Right?

Forgive me for saying it simply, but I think your car is doing exactly as it was designed. The T/C is cutting power to fight the wheelspin.

Don't like it? Turn the T/C off. Pretty simple fix. I don't think you are experiencing wheelhop. My T/C scared the hell out of me a few times when I initially bought my car. It automatically gets killed on each start-up now. I can control my wheelspin just fine by myself.

true that. I have the Poly motor mounts, poly rear arm pushings and hiem joints in my suspension now.

anybody who drives a stock mustang and then rides in my stang immediately notices the huge increase in creaks/groans and other road noises.

my car only has 4,600 miles! but I'm okay with it because that's the what I wanted. I can guarantee that Ford would lose tons of customers though if all Mustangs came that way.



For a moderate sports car from the Factory, the Mustang doesn't honestly have a wheel hop issue. It isn't until you start pushing things that you hit the wheel hop. Then something as simple as better tires (ie: sticky) solves it until you up the HP. Out the gate, my Bullitt didn't hop too horribly when dry, but was a bucking Bronco when wet. That was the main reason I upgraded my suspension.

 

A RWD car is gonna wheel hop no matter what kinda suspension, tires, or power you have on it depending on road conditions. If your rear tires leave the ground for whatever reason, say a bump in the road, the car will hop on you and it will be violent if you are getting into the throttle when it happens.

 

Completely disagree! I've owned many Mustangs over the years and never had a wheel hop issue with any of them until this one. Beat the heck out of my 90 5.0 when I was in my 20's and it never had a wheel hop issue, but sure went through tires quick.

We are not talking about going into a curve, hitting a bump and the rear stepping out, we are talking straight line acceleration wheel hop. There are other cars made that don't do it and with a few mods these Mustangs don't do it. Mine has NEVER done it, wet, dry or any road condition, since I did the suspension mods. I would like to change to the lower hole in the UCA mount and get rid of the LCA relocation brackets to change the IC and see if that also gets rid of the hop. My suspicion is that it would.

I am now done with this post. If you are happy with your car, then great, but please don't tell me Ford can't fix this problem. They just won't for some (or many) reasons, many of them $$ related I'm sure.

 

If you go over a washboard section of road my *** that car won't wheel hop when you step on it. It's one thing if it does it when you get into the throttle on a nice flat surface but another thing entirely if the road is in any way rough and uneven.

 

How does the info i post effect warranty.

Is my ip displayed ,and dealers do ip checks on forum posts to determine abuse .

Help me out here please. an FPR? Whats that

 

? i am still curious of our friends post ...

THis FpR thing and the warranty.

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+1000, There are several intersections in my city that I know 100% if I goose it off the line and stay on the gas, I'm going to wheel hop into oblivion, AND i have an AUTO tranny and get this...

Any roads that have bumps will cause wheel hop under heavy accelertation and some under moderate acceleration if they're bad enough..

I just think that the OP hit those types of intersections. I've lived in Souther cali and MOST intersections are like that. It's like they do the uneveness on purpose to foil burnouts...

Grey, why are suddenly worried about your warranty??? If it's a legitimage complaint you should not be worried.

This is the most active Mustang community on the internet and yes we have several "resident" Ford people that peruse the postings to be helpful and get feedback from the owners.