onegoal

Fords transmissions are made in China????

jmatero

Guys, can we keep this on topic. I don't think this is a tranny issue. Seems more like the clutch changed.

Roy_R

Only thing I can think of is that the clutch was burned on a fast acceleration, by not releasing it all the way or by engaging it at high RPM like in a burnout.

Shotokan1509

Ford has a TSB about the clutch about it staying on the floor even when foot is lifted, maybe your pedal has something funky.

BAKnBLK2010

Better take it back to the dealer. There have been dozens of these cars where the pressure plate bolts are backing out of the flywheel and tearing the clutch componets up.

JIM5.0

Yes, and that sucks to high hell, the MT82 is made in china.

What sucks even more is Ford does not give that much of a discount for going with the Chinese tranny option. Ford only gives us less than $1000 off for going with the Chinese tranny than if you get the auto 6R80 American tranny.

Ford and Getrag saved a lot of money exploiting cheap Chinese slave labor and cheap Chinese manufacturing and avoiding expensive environmental laws in America, but yet Ford only gives us $1000 off.
Since the MT82 is Chinese, Ford should give us much more off because of all the money they saved.

JIM5.0

The tranny being made in China could very well be the issue here, and thus it would be at the heart of what this thread is about.

Historically, and even now, Chinese made products were inferior, particularly because the Chinse factory guys either do not understand metallurgy and production techniques very well Or they are cutting way too many corners to save money. There are many Chinese factories who will cheat who employs them by using inferior materials that what was ordered and trying to pass the weaker product for what was originally ordered.

For example, a company says to a Chinese screw and bolt maker to use high strength steel with heat treatment. The Chinese contractor might cheat and use weaker steel and try to fraud the company into thinking that they are giving them what they ordered.
And the company that ordered the bolts would never know they are being frauded unless they inspect all the batches of screws and bolts to make sure the proper steel is being used.

Since we 'Stang buyers do not even know who Getrag is hiring to make the MT82, OR even if Getrag is testing the trannies to make sure they are properly built, we could never know for certain that these trannies are made to design specs.

As a result, if the Chinese factory is putting weaker steel in the gears and trying to slip that past Getrag and Ford, this could result in undue and faster wear in the tranny and this in as little as a few thousand miles, the tranny starts to exhibit bad shifting.

JIM5.0

The one thing I noticed about Ford clutches is that they have a very fast engagement. From all the way down to about maybe a third of the way out, the clutch plate is not even engaging. But from about a third way out to about 2/3 of the way out, the Ford clutch begins to engage exponentially. And from 2/3 of the way out to all the way out, your clutch is already fully engaged.

I don't know why Ford does this instant-quick clutch engagement design, I guess it is meant to address people who ride the clutch and let it slip like crazy. It sucks, because if I want a silky smooth 1st gear launch, I have to ride the clutch and let it slip like crazy, otherwise, I will buck the car and put alot of undue shock stresses on the drivetrain.

I am surprised your MT82 even had a silky smooth 1st gear engagement. From the very day I took my car home, I had to ride the clutch like crazy to keep it from bucking and putting shock stresses on the drivetrain.

JIM5.0

One thing that hurts America and American jobs because we are losing so many skilled labor jobs to China is because we allow them to play unfairly.

China does not have minimum wage laws, and they do not have anything comparable to job safety and job training like the US regulations require. So those poor Chinese workers are worked very hard for little pay and under unsafe conditions. Just so they Chinese company can make money at the expense of these workers.

And the US companies are part of this problem. They see that they can exploit slave-like labor and fire skilled American labor just to save a few dollars. Greed is the bottom line here.

Another thing that makes unrestricted and too open of trade with the countries that do not pay employees well is that the countries themselves exploit money exchange so that it is always easier for themselves to export and force America to import. This is called a trade deficit. Due to money exchange and the allowing of exploited slave-like labor causes Americans to wind up importing much more than exporting. The trade numbers are published by the Feds, and it is clear that China imports very little from America, but causes America to import way more. A fair trade would be where the import ratio would be near even and where both benefit from each other. But instead, we are being drained of our jobs because of the trade deficit.

And the exporting of US jobs is one major reason why the American economy, and even the World economy took a hit. Americans, who once could consume and fule the economy with moeny flow lost their jobs and took lesser paying jobs. Thus they could spend less and pump less money into the money flow. This in turn dominoed and began to hurt other countries too. Even China t one time felt the hurt of Americans not being able to buy.A few years ago, during teh recession, Americans didn't buy toys one Christmas. Since China is toy-land manufacturing, dozens of their toy factories shut down and they fired Chinese toy workers. Some of them even revolted against the company and vandalized the toy factories because they too lost their jobs.

Aside from international trade, another reason why the US economy sucked was of course poor lending. We all know what became of that.
And another still existing problem is the over-gouging cost of benefits to support American employees. Healhcare is one major factor why companies would hire a sweat-shop Chinese worker over an American worker. You don't have to pay the Chinese worker's vrey expensive health care cost. For the health care benefits, we can blame several factors: The greedy medical companies who charge too much for medical goods, equipment, and services. We can also blame the health insurance industry. These guys are nothing more than fat-cat overpaid middlemen who do nothing but add to the medical racket. Then there is the ambulance chaser. These guys started suing like crazy during the '90's, even frivolously. This drove up medical insurance, and doctors began to pay thousands more for malpractice insurances.

This was when the insurance fat cats spawned like an infection, and they spurred on many more ambulance chasers, who also grew in numbers like a parasite. Worse, a vicious cycle began and the doctors saw the insurance fatcats had money to take and began to add to the problem by overcharging on the insurance claims. Thus the insurance companies increase their rates to cover this act. And it keeps on going out of control.

Sorry, this kind of crap pisses me off. We Americans are cutting our own throats.

JIM5.0

I noticed that too. If I let out the clutch too damn fast when I step on it, my car will not just buck , it will wheel hop!

But aside form riding the clutch and cooking the clutch pads to a smoother weight transfer, I guess I can get better LCAs to eliminate the wheel hop.

However, I doubt that my tranny or clutch has anything to do whith wheel hop; just my feet!