2011 GT traction control button question
10-16-2010, 05:24 PM
#11
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10-16-2010, 06:56 PM
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"According to Ford, AdvanceTrac uses sensors to detect and measure side-to-side skidding conditions.
It does this by monitoring the vehicle's speed, throttle position and steering wheel angle.
When AdvanceTrac senses wheel slippage, it reduces engine torque and applies the brakes as needed."
Read about it in this months 5.0 mag.It lets you mash the gas to the floor into,
thru and out of a turn.
It modulates the power to the maximum
allowed for the grip you have available.
It does this by monitoring the vehicle's speed, throttle position and steering wheel angle.
When AdvanceTrac senses wheel slippage, it reduces engine torque and applies the brakes as needed."
Read about it in this months 5.0 mag.It lets you mash the gas to the floor into,
thru and out of a turn.
It modulates the power to the maximum
allowed for the grip you have available.
10-17-2010, 12:44 AM
#14
"According to Ford, AdvanceTrac uses sensors to detect and measure side-to-side skidding conditions.
It does this by monitoring the vehicle's speed, throttle position and steering wheel angle.
When AdvanceTrac senses wheel slippage, it reduces engine torque and applies the brakes as needed."
Read about it in this months 5.0 mag.
It lets you mash the gas to the floor into,
thru and out of a turn.
It modulates the power to the maximum
allowed for the grip you have available.
It does this by monitoring the vehicle's speed, throttle position and steering wheel angle.
When AdvanceTrac senses wheel slippage, it reduces engine torque and applies the brakes as needed."
Read about it in this months 5.0 mag.
It lets you mash the gas to the floor into,
thru and out of a turn.
It modulates the power to the maximum
allowed for the grip you have available.
Sorry for so many questions, I still don't quite get the exact differences between what is supposed to be TCS and what is supposed to be AdvanceTrac.
10-17-2010, 04:10 AM
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AdvanceTrac is essentially a stability control system. It keeps your car from fish tailing or going into motions/positions that you didn't intend. Traction Control simply eliminates wheel spin. I believe the AdvanceTrac stuff is fairly new on Mustangs (MY 2010).
Prior to that we only had Traction control. I know this because I took my 2006 Mustang into a perpendicular position when I went through a puddle that only wet the passenger side wheels. I haven't "tested" this condition in my 2011 and hope I never do.
Prior to that we only had Traction control. I know this because I took my 2006 Mustang into a perpendicular position when I went through a puddle that only wet the passenger side wheels. I haven't "tested" this condition in my 2011 and hope I never do.
10-17-2010, 09:57 AM
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Hey guys.
Traction control operates when wheel-spin is sensed such as taking a corner when the road is wet or slippery. Or tire spin on take-off. Controls the tire by pulling power and/or operating the rear brake(s). Something you would normally do but it does it sooner.
The Advance track is different. If the computor senses an understeering condition or oversteer condition, it will apply individual front or rear brake as required in an attempt to correct. (i.e. Taking a right turn corner too fast and you feel the car is understeering toward the outside it might apply the front left or right rear (?) brake to correct.) The Sport mode (not on all cars) will allow more leeway in the slip angles before intervening. Not sure if it cuts throttle or not, but this is the gist of the reasoning behind the system.
I would be very leery of the suggestion you can mash the throttle anywhere in the turn. Drive the car as you normally would. These nannies are back-ups if you overcook it. Remember the laws of physics are still applicable. Keep the systems on for the street and turn 'em off at the track. Can't really see a time to just use the Sport mode in any case. Either all on or all off, I would think.
Drive safe guys.
Cheers.
Traction control operates when wheel-spin is sensed such as taking a corner when the road is wet or slippery. Or tire spin on take-off. Controls the tire by pulling power and/or operating the rear brake(s). Something you would normally do but it does it sooner.
The Advance track is different. If the computor senses an understeering condition or oversteer condition, it will apply individual front or rear brake as required in an attempt to correct. (i.e. Taking a right turn corner too fast and you feel the car is understeering toward the outside it might apply the front left or right rear (?) brake to correct.) The Sport mode (not on all cars) will allow more leeway in the slip angles before intervening. Not sure if it cuts throttle or not, but this is the gist of the reasoning behind the system.
I would be very leery of the suggestion you can mash the throttle anywhere in the turn. Drive the car as you normally would. These nannies are back-ups if you overcook it. Remember the laws of physics are still applicable. Keep the systems on for the street and turn 'em off at the track. Can't really see a time to just use the Sport mode in any case. Either all on or all off, I would think.
Drive safe guys.
Cheers.
10-17-2010, 02:49 PM
#17
Thanks, I always though when you hit the TCS button, you automatically turn all that stuff off.
I always though the stability control of even yaw and roll was part of traction control, in addition to wheel slip control. I never knew this was an independent feature from simple wheel slip control.
I always though the stability control of even yaw and roll was part of traction control, in addition to wheel slip control. I never knew this was an independent feature from simple wheel slip control.
10-20-2010, 11:40 PM
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Also be aware that I and others have experienced wheel-hop going WOT from a standstill with TCS on. It is disturbing but hopefully it wont happen to you. TCS, ironically keeps you from spinning off the road when this happens.
10-21-2010, 05:56 AM
#20
I wonder if Sport Mode will correct this?
