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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bmr4life
You are guys incorrect. If you put an s197 automatic in 3rd, its in 3rd. No shifts. The rpms don't jump and the car accelerates slowly even when you floor it. Same with 2nd, accept it accelerates faster obviously.
I stand corrected. Thanks.

That represents a clear change in thinking by Ford (I just opened up my FSM and checked).

Position 3 — 3rd Gear



The position provides:
  • third gear start and hold.
  • apply and release of the torque converter clutch.
  • improved traction on slippery roads.
  • engine braking.
Position 2 — 2nd Gear



The position provides:
  • second gear start and hold.
  • apply and release of the torque converter clutch.
  • improved traction on slippery roads.
  • engine braking.
Position 1 — 1st Gear
If this position is selected at normal road speeds, the transmission will downshift into the next lower gear and continue downshifting until the vehicle reaches 1st gear.



This position provides:
  • first gear operation only.
  • engine braking for descending steep grades.
It's not given what happens if you select either 2 or 3 at road speeds too high for safe engine revs.

Every OE AT I've ever driven (yes, over the years there have been a few) has functioned exactly as JD described.

As far as I know (and up until the 5R55 transmission anyway) it's always been the aftermarket that provided full manual control over what gear an AT starts up in. Commonly with a reverse pattern valve body.


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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson
I stand corrected. Thanks.

That represents a clear change in thinking by Ford (I just opened up my FSM and checked).

It's not given what happens if you select either 2 or 3 at road speeds too high for safe engine revs.

Every OE AT I've ever driven (yes, over the years there have been a few) has functioned exactly as JD described.

As far as I know (and up until the 5R55 transmission anyway) it's always been the aftermarket that provided full manual control over what gear an AT starts up in. Commonly with a reverse pattern valve body.Norm
Wow, I did not know that. I'm glad Bmr4life corrected me (it has indeed been a while since I have driven an automatic).

But if the 2005+ Mustangs with automatic transmissions behave as Bmr4life indicated and Norm verified, why didn't Ford put in "select-shift" or paddle shifters on the steering wheel? That would have been a nice feature for auto owners and given them more of a sporty feel during spirited driving...
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jdmcbride
Wow, I did not know that. I'm glad Bmr4life corrected me (it has indeed been a while since I have driven an automatic).

But if the 2005+ Mustangs with automatic transmissions behave as Bmr4life indicated and Norm verified, why didn't Ford put in "select-shift" or paddle shifters on the steering wheel? That would have been a nice feature for auto owners and given them more of a sporty feel during spirited driving...
I agree. The "select-shift" would be a great addition.
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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I wonder if Steve Chryssos would be at all interested in making up a 5R55 version of this product . . .

http://www.twistmachine.com/Paddle_Shifters.html


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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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I like to be in gear at a stoplight because in first you can try and avoid a possible rearending or even other types of accidents if you have to.
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Does gearing at a stop light Closer to the Automatic style?
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tigercrazy718
i always worry about stopping on hills and someone is real close behind bc i cant always catch the roll back right away
That's what the handbrake is for, giving you time between lifting off of the brake pedal and engaging first gear.
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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I wonder if Steve Chryssos would be at all interested in making up a 5R55 version of this product . . .
I would totally buy that.


I got to tell ya though........ Im not thrilled with the "Wireless" hook up.

I had a wireless sat-radio. It had a tendancy to switch channels all by itself in traffic jams.
Old Mar 11, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by danzcool
That's what the handbrake is for, giving you time between lifting off of the brake pedal and engaging first gear.
I have never heard that one before.
Old Mar 12, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by danzcool
That's what the handbrake is for, giving you time between lifting off of the brake pedal and engaging first gear.
that what i learned to do when on a hill or when someone is close to you back end.



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