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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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I agree that they're baiting you. But I'd play along and see what transpires. You just need to know when to walk.
Old Jun 7, 2011 | 09:22 PM
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What price did they give you for the maro?
Old Jun 7, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by yourmyboybh1026
I wanted to take the sheet they wrote everything down on but the salesman grabbed it before I could. When I saw that number I instantly thought "I need to get that to the ford dealership to get a 5.0" lol. I may stop by again and act like I'm interested and see if I can get it.
that right there tells you something is up...he probably thought you would walk
Old Jun 7, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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You seriously have less than 8000 miles on an 09?
Low miles bring up the value fast, plus if it's still under factory warranty, that helps (virtually no risk to the buyer).
Old Jun 7, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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The dealer is lowballing. KBB.com lists the trade in value of your GT at $24,150.

The term the dealers use is "discounting or overallowing" depending on whether they show less or more for your trade. It's a common tactic and shows up on the four square.

More often than not, the dealer will lowball you, but that's all part of the game. You should be lowballing them on the car you intend to purchase. You should also highball them on your trade.

Here's a true story: My friend was looking to buy a new Malibu two years ago. He was trading in a 2004 Hemi Ram. The KBB value at the time was $11,500. The first dealer offered him $9,500. They were also not budging off MSRP for a 4 CYL Malibu. My friend told them to wait and he walked out of the room and called me. He was really uncomfortable. I told him that if the deal made him that uncomfortable then he didn't even have to call me, just walk out. I looked up the trade in bluebook on his truck and told him the dealer was lowballing him by $2,000. I also told him that on a car as common as a Malibu, he should be able to get the dealer to knock the price close to invoice minus rebates (Supply and Demand tactics). The bottom line? I told him to get the "F" out of that dealership right now because the sale guy was pulling a # on him. My friend heeded my advice and drove to another, smaller dealer 15 minutes out of town. This dealer proceeded to give my friend at least bluebook on the trade and discounted a V6 Malibu to close to what it would cost for the 4 CYL at MSRP.
Old Jun 7, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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I wanted to take the sheet they wrote everything down on but the salesman grabbed it before I could.

It's another tactic. They don't want you to research. They want to trap you at the dealership and pressure you into a bad situation.
Old Jun 8, 2011 | 03:12 AM
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I agree that they're baiting you. But I'd play along and see what transpires. You just need to know when to walk.
Well, I'll see what the Ford dealerships say when I go in. I like my car so unless it is something that is outstanding I'm going to walk.

What price did they give you for the maro?
It was like $33,500 for the 1ss that had a few options. That is about 1200 under the sticker price. I have no clue if that is a good price though seeing as I haven't shopped around for them. Just comparing that with a 5.0 I built on Ford's website, it seems the packages I would want on a mustang would be around that price.

You seriously have less than 8000 miles on an 09?
Low miles bring up the value fast, plus if it's still under factory warranty, that helps (virtually no risk to the buyer).
I was deployed for a year and stationed on a small base in Italy when I wasn't deployed. My longest "commute" was walking to the chow hall about 800m from where I lived. The whole base wasn't even 5 miles if you walked the entire perimeter. So I didn't really have to drive anywhere. I just had it for traveling around and what not. I'm sure those miles will go up pretty steadily now since I'll be at one of the largest bases the army has. Oh and it is under a factory warranty right now. I got the extended warranty so it will go till 2014 or something like that.
Old Jun 8, 2011 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrashard340
The dealer is lowballing. KBB.com lists the trade in value of your GT at $24,150.

The term the dealers use is "discounting or overallowing" depending on whether they show less or more for your trade. It's a common tactic and shows up on the four square.

More often than not, the dealer will lowball you, but that's all part of the game. You should be lowballing them on the car you intend to purchase. You should also highball them on your trade.

Here's a true story: My friend was looking to buy a new Malibu two years ago. He was trading in a 2004 Hemi Ram. The KBB value at the time was $11,500. The first dealer offered him $9,500. They were also not budging off MSRP for a 4 CYL Malibu. My friend told them to wait and he walked out of the room and called me. He was really uncomfortable. I told him that if the deal made him that uncomfortable then he didn't even have to call me, just walk out. I looked up the trade in bluebook on his truck and told him the dealer was lowballing him by $2,000. I also told him that on a car as common as a Malibu, he should be able to get the dealer to knock the price close to invoice minus rebates (Supply and Demand tactics). The bottom line? I told him to get the "F" out of that dealership right now because the sale guy was pulling a # on him. My friend heeded my advice and drove to another, smaller dealer 15 minutes out of town. This dealer proceeded to give my friend at least bluebook on the trade and discounted a V6 Malibu to close to what it would cost for the 4 CYL at MSRP.
def agree with this...dealers will RARELY give you bluebook for your car the price on that 1ss isn't bad, and you would only have 12k to finance or pay off...but i think you can get more out of the 5.0 when spending 33k...and 9 times out of 10 it's usually more beneficial when you trade a ford for a ford...i'd look into it, you might be able to get a left over '11 for a really good price
Old Jun 8, 2011 | 06:46 AM
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Guys, KBB isn't the Bible OK?
In tough Economy like this one, all bets are off.
Old Jun 8, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Tell them that you need a copy of the sales offer so you can get it approved by your old lady or a rich uncle that is willing to lend you the money for the new car. Then you can use the sales offer to shop around.



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