Originally Posted by Hotwheelracer

Seeing your avatar makes me think of how great some Pantera sounds pumping thru the Shaker sound system. Nothing like a little F***ing Hostile or 5 Minutes alone to get you going!

Originally Posted by Whitehorse10

That's your take on it I guess. I see a great deal of posts around here about using tuners on the Mustang. Now a tuner is not going to change the look of your car and it's not going to make it stand out from the crowd. It has but one purpose and that is to be applied as a performance gain. The same is true of adding a different rear end. This is what I was talking about and it seemed pretty obvious to me. I understand the whole "make your car stand out" mantra although making it better is a matter of point of view. A lot of guys will use the "to make the car better" argument in order to justify why the need to put mods on the car. You need to justify it. Just put the mods on the car because you want to, not because there's something wrong with the car as it is.

Originally Posted by Whitehorse10

It's all a matter of opinion Hotwheelracer. In my opinion, I figured out pretty quick that most of the so called entry level performance mods for this car are more about a fool and his money than they are any actual performance gains. You might shave a tenth or two off of your times, but in my opinion you're going to spend more money than it's worth to get there.

If I were you I'd try to find someone who has a 4.0 with aftermarket exhaust before I shelled out the money. A lot of them sound good down low in the rpm range but when you push the car up around 3500 or more they don't sound good at all. In addition you run the risk of losing some of your off the line low end grunt.

As I said, its all a matter of opinion. If you think the very minimal performance gains are worth the money you'll spend to get them then by all means go for it. But for serious performance gains you'll need to start looking at things like stage 3 heads, super chargers and turbos. Tweaking the tune isn't going to get you there. Either that or just trade for a GT and get all of those gains and still have a warranty as well.

One thing you should always keep in mind about most of these online Mustang forums is that they are frequented by guys who love to modify their cars. There's nothing wrong with that mind you but it does mean that when you show up and ask "to mod or not to mod?" you are almost always going to have a bunch of guys telling you "hell yes you should mod the car." Take it with a grain of salt. There's pro's and con's to modding your car. In addition, the default point of view among most of them is going to be that the stock version of the car somehow sucks or is greatly lacking and the only way to fix it is to throw gobs of money and lots of mods at the thing. Yet it was good enough for them the buy in the first place? Think about it. Consider the possibility that the guys over at Ford did a pretty damn good job of setting up your 4.0 Mustang to be a good performing and very reliable car from the factory. You can always find plenty of guys on these forums to tell you the car is not good enough in stock form and needs to be modded. Is that really true though? Not to me. I've done both and honestly I like the car better stock. So I'm not just playing devils advocate here. I've been on both sides of the issue. I've got nothing against guys who modd their car. It's what car guys do. I'm just telling you to take a lot of what gets said about how bad the car is stock with a big grain of salt because it's just not true.

Originally Posted by 07 Stang

Stock as in Deluxe or Premium Mustang like the Pony Package? Think about it, those of us who purchased the PP, did get an upgrade that many with Deluxe Stangs considered mods to their cars.
So when you say "take a lot of what gets said about how bad the car is stock with a big grain of salt because it's just not true" is partially correct, especially if you got an upgraded Mustang. Now stock.....well, let's just say for 98% of owners on this Forums WILL change SOMETHING to make it uniquely theirs!
Modding isn't necessarily for making the car "better" although it really does. It is something we do to make it stand out from the crowd of other Mustangs.

Originally Posted by Alec

Originally Posted by Hotwheelracer

I just laughed out loud.

Originally Posted by Hotwheelracer

Wait Alec, you're from philly too? I was born in Abington(about 30minutes north of Philly). You into the Phils or Eagles?

Originally Posted by Alec

No schit? Abington is like 10mins from me (I'm in Fort Washington). Phils all the way! I used to be big into the Sixers too but... yeah lol

Originally Posted by Hotwheelracer

That is a great deal, but what do you do about the bumper?

Originally Posted by 07 Stang

I had the shop that installed my set up cut the bumper and honestly, I think it looks better than the GT bumper. You can't tell it wasn't done at the factory. Just use the link below for a template. Also check out the link below for dual installation.


Bumper Template;

http://pysales.com/inst/SFM68-69-bumper-cutout02.pdf

Installation;

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/musta...ipe-0510v6.pdf