4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang Technical discussions on 1996-2004 4.6 Liter Modular Motors (2V and 4V) within.

won't start after accident

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-02-2004, 01:59 PM
  #1  
app1nag
Thread Starter
 
app1nag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location:
Posts: 17
Default won't start after accident

Hello to everyone. I am new to this forum and am looking for some technical help with a problem I am having with my 99 GT. My son decided one day to take the car without my permission. He skidded on some black ice and hit a pole. The air bags deployed but the car kept running and he was able to drive it home. Once he shut it off I could not start it again. I have full power to lights, horn, radio, etc. I checked the fuel reset in the trunk but it never popped. The car does not crank, period! Could it have something to do with the air bags deploying? Is there an air bag reset? I have since pulled the deflated bags out of the car. I am still wondering why the air bags deployed in the first place. He was going slow, making a left turn, when he hit the ice. The impact was at the point where the fender meets the door, on the driver's side. In fact the door is not even damaged. I pulled the fender off and it looks like all I have to do is replace it. No damage to hood or door, only the fender. Now if I could only get the car started...!!!
app1nag is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 03:03 PM
  #2  
CobraSVT33
2nd Gear Member
 
CobraSVT33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 238
Default RE: won't start after accident

i have no clue, but i do know if i was your kid i wouldnt tell the truthful story i think thats a cover up, it takes quite a bit of force to cause the airbags to come out, i had a buddy hit ice going 15-20 and slammed into a snow bank hard and bags didnt come out
CobraSVT33 is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 05:12 PM
  #3  
app1nag
Thread Starter
 
app1nag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location:
Posts: 17
Default RE: won't start after accident

have you seen the picture...??? the hit wasn't that bad...
app1nag is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 05:17 PM
  #4  
Dan04COBRA
Super Moderator
 
Dan04COBRA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location:
Posts: 14,917
Default RE: won't start after accident

All the hit has to do is jar the front bumper enough to make the bags go off.


Try reseting the fuel pump by popping open your trunk and hitting the fuel pump switch that should be found on the left side of your trunk.

I noticed you said the car won't crank at all - that would involve your starter & ignition.
Dan04COBRA is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 05:18 PM
  #5  
app1nag
Thread Starter
 
app1nag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location:
Posts: 17
Default RE: won't start after accident

front bumper was untouched...tried the fuel pump switch...never popped up
app1nag is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 05:34 PM
  #6  
pichinco
2nd Gear Member
 
pichinco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 431
Default RE: won't start after accident

Do you mean it won't even turn over? I'd check the wiring to your starter, and the starter itself. I can't believe from the picture there isn't at least some damage to the inner fender. If so isn't there some relays and such right there? I can't get to my car to look right now, but seems like there is at least an anti-lock braking (red box) there.

If it ran home and won't turn over now sounds like something has been severed leading to the starter circuit. Wonder if you could do like the old days and basically short across the starting solenoid?
pichinco is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 05:39 PM
  #7  
app1nag
Thread Starter
 
app1nag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location:
Posts: 17
Default RE: won't start after accident

I couldn't believe it either until I took the fender off. Everything looks clean. I even took the splash guard off to make sure. Yes, it will not even turn over. Full power to lights, horn, etc.

I will take another look tonight when I get home.

Thanks for the reply!
app1nag is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 06:26 PM
  #8  
Sidewayz6.0
Super Moderator
 
Sidewayz6.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: IL
Posts: 10,637
Default RE: won't start after accident

The only way to make the airbags go off is to actually break the sensor off the bracket it's mounted on. Jarring the bumper or hitting the fender, or even being rear ended (Very common misconseption) won't set the bags off.

If the sensor under the hood isn't broken, and they went off, there is something seriously wrong. Airbags are on their own relay, even if there was a short in the car somewhere, it would have to be between the airbag and the sensor to set them off, and therefore have nothing to do with the car not starting. There maybe a saftey in there somewhere that won't allow fuel through after the airbags have gone off, but it would still crank I would imagine. I have heard of people changing their steering wheels, and the passenger side blows the next time they start their car. Did you change anything on the car that would interrupt the function of the SRS system?
Sidewayz6.0 is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 06:28 PM
  #9  
Sidewayz6.0
Super Moderator
 
Sidewayz6.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: IL
Posts: 10,637
Default RE: won't start after accident

FYI...Looking at the picture, thats a Donut gone bad if I've ever seen one. Might want to shake the kid down for what really happened.
Sidewayz6.0 is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 06:37 PM
  #10  
app1nag
Thread Starter
 
app1nag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location:
Posts: 17
Default RE: won't start after accident

he was making a left turn and hit some ice...car did a 180 and he hit the pole...

#1 he should not have taken the car...
#2 especially in the winter...
#3 and most importantly with bald tires!!

Car was being stored for the winter!

Haven't done any mods to the car since I got it...do you know where the sensor would be so I can check to see if it's broken?

Thanks!
app1nag is offline  


Quick Reply: won't start after accident



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:36 PM.